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Old 01-12-2018, 08:58 PM
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Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

I bought some old Benjamin Moore tubes of oil paint on ebay. The colors are turkey red & chrome green, but there is no other info on the tubes. I am curious about the history of artist's paints made by commercial paint companies. Is anybody aware of a site that gives a decent background of old paints?
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:47 PM
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

Do they actually say that they are artist paints? They did have tubes of pigment that they used to sell for the purpose of tinting/tweaking their paints in cans. I remember having a couple of them. You could add some extra color to make your own custom color of paint with them.
But if they do say "artist" paints, then I would assume that is what they are and were meant for regular artistic oil painting.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:17 PM
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

Interesting. I have B&M in great regard as home paint but I've never heard about an artist line. The only company I can recall right now as having both home paint and artistic products is the spanish brand "Titan". I've never used the hardware store stuff but I've bought several of their oil paint tubes from garage sales made by spanish expats. It is good stuff, at about the same level of W&N or Rembrandt.
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

At first, I found it hard to believe that Benjamin Moore made artists' paint, but indeed they did. I found an ebay listing (not the one that caught the original poster's attention) offering a Chrome Yellow and a black from Benjamin Moore. The tubes are pictured. If that's a real Chrome Yellow, then the tube is probably quite elderly.

One of the first contributions to this forum I ever made concerned a line called Pictor, sold many a moon ago by Standard Brands. Pictor was made by a house paint manufacturer -- I forget which one -- and for that reason, most artists sneered at the stuff. But back in the day, we all had a couple of tubes of the stuff because it was just so damned cheap.

It wasn't bad. Wasn't particularly GOOD -- the thickness indicated heavy use of stearate -- but most tubes were useful. I still have some.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:48 PM
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On that note. Chrome yellow and orange are commonly offered in Mexico as part of Velazquez oil paint (named after you might guess whom). I do NOT know if they contain real chrome pigments but the environment legislation is a joke in these lands so I wouldn't be surprised. I know for a fact that hardware store stuff (as enamels) DO contains heavy metals from talking to tech support of several companies. At any rate, my point is, if they offer real chorme or lead pigments I suspect some readers might be interested

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At first, I found it hard to believe that Benjamin Moore made artists' paint, but indeed they did. I found an ebay listing (not the one that caught the original poster's attention) offering a Chrome Yellow and a black from Benjamin Moore. The tubes are pictured. If that's a real Chrome Yellow, then the tube is probably quite elderly.

One of the first contributions to this forum I ever made concerned a line called Pictor, sold many a moon ago by Standard Brands. Pictor was made by a house paint manufacturer -- I forget which one -- and for that reason, most artists sneered at the stuff. But back in the day, we all had a couple of tubes of the stuff because it was just so damned cheap.

It wasn't bad. Wasn't particularly GOOD -- the thickness indicated heavy use of stearate -- but most tubes were useful. I still have some.

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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

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At first, I found it hard to believe that Benjamin Moore made artists' paint, but indeed they did. I found an ebay listing (not the one that caught the original poster's attention) offering a Chrome Yellow and a black from Benjamin Moore. The tubes are pictured. If that's a real Chrome Yellow, then the tube is probably quite elderly.

Those don't appear to be artists' colors. They're house painters' tinting colors. The upper 4 tubes on the left are all tinting colors put out by house paint manufacturers. The labels make no mention of artist ....anything. The Moore labels says "ground in pure linseed oil" and "permanent and strong colors" on the sides of the tube.
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

The Benjamin Moore tubes you have pictured are the same type I have. The boxes the tubes came in have as little information as the tubes. I have sent an inquiry to Benjamin Moore for more information. The box is labeled "Moore's Colors in Oil". The colors are Turkey Red & Chrome Green
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

Pigment "ground in pure linseed oil"? I'd feel perfectly comfortable using that stuff to paint a picture.
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Pigment "ground in pure linseed oil"? I'd feel perfectly comfortable using that stuff to paint a picture.

I wouldn't feel comfortable using any of those paints. Uncoated chrome yellows, low-grade alizarin crimson (Turkey Red), american vermillion (supposedly uncoated lead chromate or a low quality dye pigment). The only unchangeable pigment would be the lamp black - how much industrial strength drier has been stuck into that ultra slow drying pigment to make it useable for housepainters? Yellows and reds that darken or fade .... why bother?

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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

The tinting paints I had were not formulated like oil paints in terms of consistency. They were pretty thin so you could easily disperse the color into
a container of thick paint by stirring.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:45 PM
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Re: Benjamin Moore artists oil paints

They are tints discontinued in the 50's or early 60's, per a benjamin moore distributor I contacted. Waiting to see if he can find any more info.
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