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April 30, 2018 at 3:49 pm #455403
It seems the only Naples Yellow available locally-or on Amazon Prime-is a water mixable from Windsor and Newton. I’ve never used water mixables; are they interchangeable with regular oils? Or should I order my usual and wait? (I hate waiting!)
Many thanks,
JudiJune 10, 2018 at 10:58 am #613816Yes they are! You can use them with anything you use with your regular oils (medium, white spirit …). You can’t do it the other way around. So they will not be water miscible anymore when you add them to regular oils. Only if you add less than 30% of regular oils to water miscible ones, you can add water to dilute the mixture.
I hope this isn’t too confusing
July 3, 2018 at 6:00 pm #613817Note that if you’re looking for the real Naples yellow, the W&N is a hue, not genuine. Michael Harding offers the real thing. And I’d bet Rublev has it.
August 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm #613824Just so I don’t misunderstand – I probably have hundreds of $$$ of oil paint but I want to switch (though a little late) to water miscible paint. I can add them to my palate with my oil paints and combine them? Right?
August 5, 2018 at 4:56 pm #613826That’s my understanding, but I chickened out and waited for my usual oil. I did find some links that may shed some light.
All about Water Soluble Oils @ https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118687
Water-Mixable Subforum @
https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=478And there is a section about Water Miscible Oils in the FAQ page @
https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235455Good luck
JudiAugust 5, 2018 at 6:21 pm #613825Just so I don’t misunderstand – I probably have hundreds of $$$ of oil paint but I want to switch (though a little late) to water miscible paint. I can add them to my palate with my oil paints and combine them? Right?
Yes. After a certain amount of mixing with regular oils they won’t be water-miscible anymore BUT you can use something like Schmincke’s W medium to make regular oils water-miscible and then you shouldn’t have any problems.
August 6, 2018 at 12:44 am #613818There’s really no need to buy water-miscible paints as far as I can see. You can already clean normal paint out of brushes with soap and water as it is. I mix a little soap into the tuft, rinse and repeat until clean.
August 7, 2018 at 2:34 pm #613819I have mixed regular oil paint with Water mixable, and I have not seen any issues. I made sure to varnish the painting anyway, the painting is almost 4 years old and no problems.
August 12, 2018 at 8:09 am #613815Use Schmincke’s Medium W to convert regular oil paints to water miscible.
August 12, 2018 at 8:37 am #613814Alex: I just bought a large bottle of the Schmincke W.
Looking forward to try it.
After mixing do you think acrylics can still be added like in Holbein Aqua Duo?Website: www.artderek.com
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https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1431363August 31, 2018 at 3:42 pm #613808I often store my traditional oil pallet in the freezer to extend usage time of the
paints. Would this be appropriate for water miscible oils?September 1, 2018 at 7:19 pm #613811AnonymousThere’s really no need to buy water-miscible paints as far as I can see. You can already clean normal paint out of brushes with soap and water as it is. I mix a little soap into the tuft, rinse and repeat until clean.
Water mixable oils dissolve in water, regular oils don’t. This means that you can thin them with water, you can’t do that with regular oils.
While working with them you can clean out your brushes with only water, this can’t be done with regular oils, and when you are done painting you can clean up brushes, palettes, and all else with only water.
Soap alone helps to clean out regular oils from brushes etc, but it is far easier and more thoroughly done with only water if using water mixable oils. It is far more difficult to clean out brushes as thoroughly with regular oils and soap and water. After scrubbing and scrubbing them forcefully, there will still be residual paint left up near the ferrule, which is bad for your brushes.
Water mixable paints,varnishes, glues, coatings, and lubricants are now being made in water mixable form which proves to be very helpful in a great many applications.I’ve never used water mixables; are they interchangeable with regular oils?
Yes, all are 100% compatible and mixable together.
November 19, 2018 at 10:31 am #613820Yes but why would you? I plan t o switch to water solubles soon. When I do I’ll just put my regular oils away until I decide to go back to them after evaluating the WS. If I don’t go back to them, I’ll find someone who wants them. Mixing them would seem to remove all benefit from the WS.
Dick Hutchings
Daniel Smith Essential 6 colors and Arches 140#November 22, 2018 at 7:24 am #613829I use them a lot with w&n artists oils and they are great especially the cobra /talens ones which are way better than the w&n ones. Jackson’s are good too. Dont thin them with water though as the film becomes ever weaker. only use water to clean up. I use the modified oil and also liquin with them.
December 4, 2018 at 2:37 am #613828Yes, water-mixable oils are real oils, they are water mixable, not water based. They can be mixed and applied using the same techniques as traditional oils but whilst wet they can be removed from brushes and palettes with soap and water and I’ve found Masters Brush Cleaner works a treat..
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