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December 28, 2019 at 3:45 pm #481934
While we’re at it with the “Desert Island Discs”… although this may all just fall flat… I thought I might also ask WC members for their thoughts on a list of their dozen “Desert Island Books”. If you were stranded on the proverbial desert island with only 12 books to read… what would they be? And why?
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December 28, 2019 at 5:21 pm #924677While we’re at it with the “Desert Island Discs”… although this may all just fall flat… I thought I might also ask WC members for their thoughts on a list of their dozen “Desert Island Books”. If you were stranded on the proverbial desert island with only 12 books to read… what would they be? And why?
Some of the books would fall under the topics of – survival, and pornography.
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STUDIOBONGODecember 28, 2019 at 7:07 pm #924670well, if it’s truly a desert island i’d be dead before i got through a book anyway, given that deserts have no water beyond dew, no trees, no food to speak of ‘cept maybe bugs flying about waiting to eat my carcass.
deserted island? that’s different … edible and poisonous critter and plant guides … building the best lean to … how to recognize flint and other useful stones … snares and other kill traps … build-a-raft … that’s about half my quota on survival … … of lit i might be more apt to write than read, but could double dip there and write between the lines of what i’d read, if i landed, alive, with a decent pencil full of leds … some pauline gedge perhaps, some mitchner, an early hemmingway or two, something uplifting from steinbeck, maybe dante ’cause he’s fun, or maybe a library delivery plane could just crash on my island and surprise me with gobs i’ve not yet even heard of.
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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know PeaceDecember 28, 2019 at 7:41 pm #924668Off the top of my head. No reason, just easy reading between meals.
I used to spend the occasional day at a time on deserted islands with my wife whilst holidaying. We would just roam around everywhere.Captains and Kings – Taylor Caldwell
Cain and Abel – Jeffrey Archer
The Day of the Jackal – Frederick Forsythe
The Gemini Contenders – Robert Ludlum
The Adventurers – Harrold Robbins
I walked into bar – wittiscism
The wit of Winston Churchill
The Fist of God – Frederick Forsythe
A Fortunate Life – Albert Facey
The Waste Land – TS ElliottDecember 29, 2019 at 1:09 am #924672Deserted Island Survival for Dummies or something in that line.
The Bible
The Odyssey
Don Quijote
Pride and Prejudice
Lord of the Rings
The Rebel Angels by Robertson Davies
A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry or The English Patient by Michael Ondaatje
The Dream of Scipio by Iain Pears
Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel
Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel KayI have read many of these multiple times, so I know they have the capacity to absorb my attention and take me on a journey in time and space. That is something I would need if I was stuck on a small island with nothing but a few birds and crabs for company.
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December 30, 2019 at 4:02 pm #924675[em]The Dice Man[/em] by Luke Rhinehart
[em]The Code Book[/em] by Simon Singh (contains a marvellous history of Bletchley Park and the unravelling of the German’s Enigma Machine)
[em]Crow[/em] by Ted Hughes
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~ Niels Bohr.December 30, 2019 at 7:15 pm #924651I believe I’d like to read, “How to Survive, and Get Off of a Desert Island”, by probably anyone who’d written it!:lol:
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https://williamfmartin.blogspot.comDecember 30, 2019 at 7:42 pm #924667I think I would prefer an unabridged dictionary and reams of paper along with boxes of pencils.
January 1, 2020 at 12:49 pm #924676Me too.
12 random volumes from the Encyclopedia Britannica would probably provide the most varied entertainment for the longest time.
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Root, Bone, Sticks & StoneJanuary 3, 2020 at 8:08 am #924671I believe I’d like to read, “How to Survive, and Get Off of a Desert Island”, by probably anyone who’d written it!:lol:
Very practical. Along with “How to survive on a Desert Island: top 10 food, water and shelter tips.”
The bible. I’m an atheist but it’s a very interesting read. Catcher in the Rye. The Handmaids Tale. Pride and Prejudice. That leaves 5 – I think I would have to chose 5 I haven’t yet read, perhaps Sapiens or something by Carl Sagan or Neil deGrass Tyson. However if I had access to some charcoal and paper I would definitely take The Bargue Plates. And with access to oil paint and canvas or wood I would make the other 4 options art books from Suzanne Brooker, Richard Schmid…
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http://www.artallison.com/January 3, 2020 at 10:29 am #9246521. The Bible
An amazing collection of poetry and prose in a broad array of genre. It is incredible that the Song of Solomon is housed within the same collection as the Psalms or the Sermon on the Mount. I would likely go with the unsurpassed (in English) King James translation… but I would also love the recent Robert Alter version of the Hebrew (Old Testament) texts.
2.Dante- The Divine Comedy
Many literary folk would name Dante’s masterwork as the single greatest work of literature. I would probably agree with them. This work which on the surface records the journey of Dante through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven is an allegory of journey of the human soul. But it is so much more. Like any number of the so-called “frame stories” (Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales, The Arabian Nights, etc…) it is a collection of narratives within narratives within narratives. I grew up with John Ciardi’s marvelous translation… but I’d probably go with the more recent poetic prose translation (with brilliant notes and commentary) by Robert and Jean Hollander.
3. William Shakespeare- Collected Plays
Arguably the greatest writer of all history… certainly the greatest writer in English… Shakespeare would have to show up in my favorite works of literature. Hamlet, King Lear, Macbeth, Othello, Antony and Cleopatra, and so many more have made an indelible mark on me and so many others… including so many artists of every genre.
4. Edmund Spenser- Poetical Works
John Milton and his Paradise Lost may be second only to Shakespeare within the realm of English-language literature… but I’ve long been more enamored of Edmund Spenser. His Amoretti may be the greatest cycle of sonnets… even finer than those by Dante, Shakespeare, Petrarch, and Ronsard. Where the sonnets of others remain static, Spenser’s evolve from his initial infatuation and rejection and grow into friendship and eventually love culminating in his wedding poem: Epithalamion
5. Cervantes- Don Quixote
While I would hate losing Chaucer, Milton, Robert Herrick, John Donne, and others, limited to a set number of books, I would seek a degree of variety. The Spaniard Cervantes’ Don Quixote was arguably the first Western novel and one of the greatest. At its heart, the novel (actually two novels: part 1 & 2) tells the tale of one of the finest literary friendships: that of Sancho and the Don.
6. Lawrence Sterne- The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy
Sterne’s “Tristram Shandy” is one of the first novels written in English… and one of the finest. Like Cervantes, Sterne disects the elements of the novel and story-telling right from the start in a manner that is almost Post-Modern. Like Don Quixote, this is a comic masterpiece and one of the finest portrayals of friendship in writing.
7. anon.-The Arabian Night’s Entertainments tr. Richard Francis Burton
The Arabian Nights is perhaps the masterpiece of the “frame story” or that literary form in which stories within stories within stories (often told by various are organized within an overarching narrative in which various characters often relate tales. Burton’s tanslation avoide the usual censorship of the erotic elements of the Arabian Nights. The Obscene Publications Act of 1857 had resulted in censorship and many jail sentences for publishers of questionable works with prosecutions being brought by the Society for the Suppression of Vice. Burton referred to the society and those who shared its views as Mrs Grundy. A way around this was the private circulation of books amongst the members of a society. For this reason Burton, together with Forster Fitzgerald Arbuthnot, created the Kama Shastra Society to print and circulate books, including the Arabian Nights that would be illegal to publish in public. The Arabian Nights is one of the finest collections of narrative tales and Burton’s translation is one of the finest and most complete in English.
8. William Blake Collected Prose and Poetry
Blake famously wrote: “I must create a system or be enslaved by another mans; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create.” There have been few writers who have matched Blake’s creation of his own visionary world (Milton and Dante come to mind). Both his short “lyrical” poems and his longer “visionary” epic poems reward repeated and deep readings… and these take on even more layers of interpretation when accompanied by his paintings and prints… or illuminations.
9. Charles Baudelaire- Les Fleurs du Mal– tr. by Richard Howard
The two towering and game-changing collections of poetry of the mid-1800s both employed the allegory of plants in the titles of the collections: Walt Whitman’s Leaves of Grass and Charles Baudelaire’s Flowers of Evil. I remember a discussion on a literary group as to which I preferred. Then, as now, I go with the Frenchman and his poetry rooted in the Modern urban experience rendered in the most exquisite of language and literary form. The Flowers of Evil was a text I kept at my side all throughout my years as an art student.
10. Flaubert- Madame Bovary
The novel has been the dominant literary form for the last 150 years or longer… but I have only included 4 novels in my list as a lean far more toward other literary forms. Having said this, I could not be without Flaubert’s masterpiece… the nearest to the perfect novel that I can imagine.
11. Marcel Proust- À la recherche du temps perdu (In Search of Lost Time… previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past)
In choosing a work of Modernism I passed on James Joyce, whose Finnegans Wake literally demands a vast volume of commentary to fully grasp. T.S. Eliot’s poems were considered but ultimately I wanted something meatier in terms of scale… trapped on this island as it were. I ended up going with that “meatiest” of novels, as it were: Proust’s In Search of Lost Time which the great literary critic, Harold Bloom acknowledged was “widely recognized as the major novel of the twentieth century.” In spite of its epic scale (some 7 volumes), the book does not fit the usual concept of the epic such as War & Peace with grand actions and drama. In Search of Lost Time follows the narrator’s recollections of childhood and experiences into adulthood during late 19th century to early 20th century aristocratic France, while reflecting on the loss of time and lack of meaning to the world. The rich, poetic language is clearly rooted in the aestheticism of late 19th century writers such as Baudelaire, Flaubert, Walter Pater, etc…
12. J.L. Borges- Collected Fictions
Borges is my sole selection from the Americas… Argentina to be precise. Borges rejected the larger form of the novel and focused upon short lyric poems, short stories, and essays. His work was inspired by a profound grasp of literary history, especially Shakespeare, Don Quixote, Kafka, and the Arabian Nights. His Collected Fictions is essential, but the slim volume, Dreamtigers, is one of the most read books in my library.
13. Vladimir Nabokov- Lolita
Once again I’ll “cheat” a bit and go for the “baker’s dozen” with what may just be the greatest American novel… written by a Russian on a theme that would seem impossible to tackle… and yet he does so without the least bit of vulgarity… with incredible insight into American culture… with great humor and the most exquisite prose… and in the process, creates one of the greatest characters in literary history: Humbert Humbert… at once comically absurd and a horrible villain.
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"Beauty is truth, truth beauty—that is all ye know on earth and all ye need to know." - John Keats
"Modern art is what happens when painters stop looking at girls and persuade themselves that they have a better idea."- John Ciardi
January 14, 2020 at 7:52 pm #924657.
SLG – This is a good idea, and NOT one that will fall flat.I could never get to the island because of a wreck-related injury. I’m pretty sure that travel by plane or ship across an ocean would be the last straw for my brain I can picture it imploding inside my skull at 30,000+ feet once and for all I can’t even imagine how my brain would respond to an ocean voyage instead of a plane, but it wouldn’t be pretty 🤕
So this adventure of the mind will have to do ☀️
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In my version of this adventure, the island is not a flat desert. It is lush and volcanic and diverse and gorgeous and every view of every secluded bay is different. The edges are carved over unimaginable eons of time by crashing waves here, and softer weathering there…..
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I love thinking about books 😂 I’m happily surrounded by gobs of them 😃 and I have some favorites (too many), so I want to take my time and enjoy this exploration.
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I can say right off the bat that I’d have to take a couple of cartoon collections from The New Yorker to keep the evenings fun after days spent swimming the edges, and hiking the volcanic hills with their shards and their porous mysteries.
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So perhaps I can start my list with:
The Complete Cartoons of the New Yorker — It’s no longer complete as the years roll on by ☀️ but it weighs a ton, so, complete enough for me 😍
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/complete-cartoons-of-the-new-yorker-robert-mankoff/1100220636?ean=9781579126209The New Yorker 90th Anniversary Book of Cartoons — a slim and vibrant volume of fantastic fun and plenty of laughter 😍 (along with the single tear here and there 💧 ) It’s light enough that I could carry it in my backpack around the island, and dip in whenever!
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-new-yorker-conde-nast/1122526418?ean=2940149138296Back later to add to the list 😊
What a great way to contemplate an adventure!!!!!!! 😍 🌌
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.January 14, 2020 at 9:24 pm #924641January 14, 2020 at 10:30 pm #924645Omigosh, you mean like Love’s Savage Secret?
Brownie points for getting the pop culture reference without Google.
I have tended, over the years, to notice books I frequently reread. I’m afraid they all fall under the dreaded rubric of genre fiction. If I’m all stressed out waiting to be rescued on a desert island, I just want to be entertained.
So…
Killing Critics, by Carol O’Connell. To which I would add Stone Angel, Crime School, Dead Famous, Find Me and The Chalk Girl if I wanted a total emotional blowout, but a steady diet of Mallory is just too damn exhausting. Ms. O’Connell is the greatest crime novelist of my generation, if indeed her books, from Killing Critics on, can even be called crime novels. She’s death on “the literati” who look down their noses at the genre. “Evelyn Waugh is Henry James in literary black underwear and bondage equipment.” Her work has been compared by one besotted fan as a combination of Goya, Hogarth and Magic Realism. It has also been aptly pointed out that reading her work is like looking at a Pointillist painting. First page you’ve got your nose up against it and with each page, each a step back, it slowly begins to reveal itself for whatever the hell it is. Or what you think it is anyway, until you find out it’s something else (I’m not just talking about the solve). And yeah, I am obviously in love with her, and with Kathy Mallory, who would cut me dead if I ever called her by her first name, which would leave me feeling fortunate she didn’t shoot me instead. We’re not talking about dear old Aunt Jane here. I have no clue how O’Connell plots these things and once again, I’m not just talking about the solve.
Hearts in Atlantis, by Stephen King. Sorry, but the man can write when he’s on his game, and nobody does growing up ostracized in the Eisenhower years better.
IT, ditto. A glorious mess of a book. The recent movie adaptations are pathetically lame, maybe the worst adaptations of King ever, which is saying something. Could also be used to hold down a tarp in a hurricane, so it doubles as a survival tool.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy by John Le Carre. George Smiley is one of the greatest creations of Twentieth Century fiction and no, he doesn’t look like Sir Alec.
Smiley’s People, ditto.
Lavondyss, by Robert Holdstock. One of the strangest books ever written. It falls into the category of fantasy fiction, but it’s nothing like anything else. Ryhope Wood is a bad place to get lost in, and not because there are Ents there.
The Complete Sherlock Holmes, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
I’ll have to think about the rest.
January 14, 2020 at 11:10 pm #924658Could also be used to hold down a tarp in a hurricane, so it doubles as a survival tool.[/quote]
I’ve been thinking about adding in a couple of le Carré books too. So good. But I don’t know if they’re going to go with me on my adventure. They’ve already taken me down other roads, other years, and even a new road last year. But for this adventure? Probably will have to leave them on the shelf. Maybe.
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