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She looks good. Without seeing the photo reference I couldn't say, but she looks very good from here.

I did see one proportion detail on this glance at your grandfather that might be the problem. The distance from the bottom of his nose to the place his lips meet is exactly the same as from that point to the underside of his chin - that gives him a long upper lip. In the photo he has a short upper lip and a rather long chin. Next time you do him, check proportions carefully on placement of features and whether they're the right size for the face. Even very slight changes can break the likeness.

Those are almost the worst because the results still look pretty good and would be okay on someone else's face. The feature is accurately drawn, it's right, what's wrong? Shapes of foreheads and chins are like negative space anyway.They don't have the intensity of eyes and mouths. Nose is well done but it's also shorter in relation to its width than in the photo, where he's got a long narrow nose. And a short upper lip.
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Thank you Robert, all things that I didn't see but now that you've pointed them out.... glaring. I have a few other old photos to work on but I think I will do Grandpa again. He was a handsome man and I'd like to get him right.
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Blow up the photo reference and measure proportions, that may help. If I don't do that I still fall into that same kind of error. Have to at least rough out the proportions at start or a mistake there will compound itself.

There are some psychological reasons for it. Eyes and mouths carry a lot of emotional information, so do eyebrows. foreheads, chins, and the middles of noses do not. So emotionally an artist can easily wind up exaggerating the meaningful features compared to the rest and then distort face shape to accommodate them. I didn't even notice "depth of upper lip" other than routinely measuring till I got a good long look at Stephen King's photo on the back of his book and figured out why he was funny looking when he should be so seriously handsome. It's that his upper lip is extremely long.
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Thank you Robert, makes sense and I will try one more time but this journal is almost done, need to start another one.

I haven't done anything for awhile, the holidays got in the way. Did this quick one today, getting back to work. Channeling one of my favorite artists.

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Easy to recognize Toulouse Lautrec! Love it Helen!
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Great sketch of the lady in the style of Toulouse Lautrec! Good profile and strong values. Love that hair.
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Such a good idea for a sketchbook-journal....I think I'm inspired TY!
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Love the sketches you've done in this journal!!
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-Anoher one done... this is my great-grandfather.

Only two more pages in this journal, time to make another one. This one turned out to be mostly faces; have to decide what the next one will be.
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And the old woman Kay posted in this weekend's wde was perfect for my grunge journal. I've started a new one and here's a link to the wde where she's posted. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show....php?t=1443110
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What fabulous works!!
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Very nice job on this last one of your great-grandfather!
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Another one in my new grunge journal... this. Time my son.
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Love the version with your son
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