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This newly restored 15th-century lamb is worrying art lovers

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Any form of restoration is impossible without criticism. The cleaning of the Sistine led to outrage by several art historians who like many others had grown accustomed to the dark, somber frescos. When the brilliant colors of the paintings were revealed they twisted themselves into knots attempting to offer arguments as to how the darkness was not due solely to centuries of soot and candle smoke, but that Michelangelo must have glazed over the completed frescos with oils and varnish. And these were art historians who should have known better... who argued that Michelangelo would never have used such brilliant, saturated colors... in spite of this painting...



... and in spite of the brilliant, saturated colors employed by the Mannerist followers of Michelangelo.

So now they are moaning that the Van Eyck lamb doesn't look like it long did... over-painted by earlier "restoration" attempts?



Even in this small, low-resolution reproduction, you can see that the ears were originally quite a bit lower and the eyes moved. The more human-like face would be quite common in images of animals from the late Gothic/early Renaissance. The human aspect of the face would also make sense considering the symbolism of the Lamb as Christ. The more natural lamb may be more immediately pleasing to our eyes, but that is in no way a measure of whether it was more accurate to the intentions of the painter.



Over the Christmas holiday, I visited the Cleveland Museum of Art where I was particularly taken by the jewel-like paint-handling of this painting by the contemporary/follower of Van Eyck, Petrus Christus...



You almost needed a magnifying glass to see all the details... let alone to have painted it. I would certainly love to see the Van Eyck altarpiece when the restoration is complete.

ps. After posting this I noticed that the lamb in Petrus Christus' painting exhibits similar frontal eyes to the restored Van Eyck.
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The project's head, Hélène Dubois, told The Art Newspaper the discovery was "a shock for everybody -- for us, for the church, for all the scholars, for the international committee following this project."

How they've got the nerve to call this a project is beyond me. What a basket of deplorables!
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How they've got the nerve to call this a project is beyond me. What a basket of deplorables!

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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ghent-altarpiece-restorations-reveal-alarmingly-humanoid-face-famous-mystical-lamb-180973846/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=socialmedia&fb clid=IwAR20E1DjMTZyt5wmFCLZpmMaPtkUsspVkGxOE6AmB7_ 9eUSYr8krBRYLF78
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This isn't a restoration, the painting has been been changed, the eyes are in a different place on a different angle. The nose is skewed and the head has been flattened and heaven knows what happened to the ears. If an artist can't see that through observation they should give up art and take up hairdressing, at least the mistakes they make can then be put right within a month.
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Re: This newly restored 15th-century lamb is worrying art lovers

I have seen the Sistine Chapel twice in my life.

The first time (when a was 22 y.o.) it was too dark. Could hardly see anything.

The next time, 30 years later, it was too bright. But I did see everything (in technicolor).

The next time I go (22 years from now when I am 82 y.o.) I am hoping it will be "just right".

I didn't realize that this Van Eyck restoration had gone "back" to Van Eyck's original vision for the lamb. I thought the restoration had just botched it up. It does make more sense that Van Eyck would have painted the lamb's face to look more humanoid given the subject matter and the time period.
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Re: This newly restored 15th-century lamb is worrying art lovers

Looking at the side by side before and after photos I can clearly see the original ears on the original in bth photos.

This is definitely being circulated as another botched restoration where the restorers made drastic changes to the painting out of keeping with the original. Quite the opposite appears to be true. At least the changes were centuries old.
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Whether it is based upon the original or not (which I very much doubt and is a great excuse for another Belgium botch), it is the worst painting of a lamb I've ever seen and if one only had the lamb in the painting and tried to convince experts one had a Van Eyke, they'd laugh at you!

On the other hand, maybe Hockney is right and Van Eyke needed optical lenses and the sheep was painted without the aid!

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It's a more feminine lamb. I need that restorer's contact information.... ASAP
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Re: This newly restored 15th-century lamb is worrying art lovers

Apparently Barnett Newmans Painting which had been damaged by some psycho member of the public had later been revealed to have been restored with a pot of poster paint (gulp) so again you would not be seeing a true version of his work..very sad. As for the lamb I wreckon they got hold of the same guy with the poster paint to do the job , that or they got his pet dog to do it lol
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