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    matt66
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        Hi guys,,
        i’m studing a very sophisticated painting bi A.Tinei. I’m having a trouble identifying the blue he used, it’s so intense in chroma but still high in value.
        i have tried Schev blue light, Phtalo blue, ultramarine and manganese with no results. any thoughts?

        #655581

        Golden Paints site has a nice auto mixer that you supply an image and it gets an approximation. https://www.goldenpaints.com/mixer

        It suggests: (the number are parts in proportion)

        1
        Cerulean Blue Deep

        1
        Titan Violet Pale

        9
        N8 Neutral Gray

        9
        Light Phthalo Blue

        The exact combination it provides varies when you move around that blue spot.. but one thing remains… Phtalo Blue combined with a Neutral Gray.. spiced a bit by something else slightly.

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        #655580
        Anonymous

            i have tried Schev blue light, Phtalo blue, ultramarine and manganese with no results

            so you tried these and they were not chromatic enough, or the wrong hue?
            Be sure to place your mix in the same context, next to the same flesh tone.

            #655583

            Be sure to place your mix in the same context, next to the same flesh tone.

            This is good advice, because it doesn’t look very high in chroma to me.

            #655579
            Delofasht
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                I’d just jump for Prussian + White. The color you are viewing is less chromatic than it seems for one, and secondly the blue is very cyan leaning and I find that prussian is slightly more cyan leaning than Phthalo.

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                #655584
                opainter
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                    It appears to me that this blue might be Cerulean Blue. Either PB36 and PB36:1, as Cerulean Blue comes in both formulations. But I don’t know anything about the artist or when this painting was painted, which could certainly make a difference. Many pigments available today were not available at times in the past.

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                    #655582
                    Gigalot
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                        so you tried these and they were not chromatic enough, or the wrong hue?
                        Be sure to place your mix in the same context, next to the same flesh tone.

                        :clap: This!
                        BTW, Phthalo is the most chromatic blue color among other pigments except UMB and much more chromatic than Prussian blue. If you want to make a Blue (or Red) color to look brighter, then avoid to use pure White color on your painting, use pure White from tube to mix blue color with Phthalo, but avoid to apply this White on canvas. White must be muted strongly with Mars Violet, Green Earth, Yellow ochre or VanDyck Brown. Or with a mixture of such colors and Mars Black. Add as much earth color to white as possible until paint looks “White” for human perception.

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