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Old 11-02-2005, 09:30 AM
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

I studied painting at Ohio State in the early seventies and they would only allow acrylics in the basic painting classes. At the time I understood this as a progressive approach to the subject but in retrospect it appears more like a higher level of the cheap and easy to use tempera colors of elementary school. A viligent OSHA was not quite yet so active then either so that wasn't an explanation for the policy. It was convenience.

I noticed though that the professors painted with oil color.

IMO oil painted with an oil/alkyd resin is superior to either acrylic or traditional oil but the fumes are even more noticable and likely to annoy the hordes of emerging asthmatics and hyper-allergic types (extremely rare in the past but common now), so it is unlikely that the developing student will be instructed in this technique unless they study privately under a practicing artist.

I don't think the University art department generally trains so much as provoking thinking and problem solving. The future in these schools will no doubt like with CAD and Photoshop anyway. Us picture makers are being relegated by change to mere decorators.

Interesting and creative painting will always go on but in the tech age either at the margins of society, in service of the Bourgeoisie, or as an anachronism.

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i am jealouse of all those that use these materials
it makes life easier
so so much grams of oil on so so much meters of canves
very safe very easy
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:53 PM
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

I work in both oils and acrylics, but predominantly in oils. I've been using water soluable oils for about 6 years and love them. Wouldn't go back. No fumes and cleanup with water and soap. People have no idea that I'm not using the old fashioned kind of oils. I'm hoping more schools start using the water soluable oils if the reason is for the smell and fumes of solvents.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

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I don't think the University art department generally trains so much as provoking thinking and problem solving. The future in these schools will no doubt like with CAD and Photoshop anyway. Us picture makers are being relegated by change to mere decorators.

Just as CAD and Photoshop 'artists' are being relegated to being mere entertainers and advertisers?

Your attitude, it seems, is just another variant of the popular, but overstated, 'art is dead' belief.

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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

Where I went, Painting 1 is always oils, unless you get one teacher. He doesnt mind if you use acrylics, which is his medium of choice. As you get into Painting 3 and higher, you are more free to use acrylics if you please. Painting 2 really depends on your teacher, its about 50/50 there. I do know that the EPA and such were on my school big time. They would do random checks to make sure that the chemicals were stored right and such. It got to be that we were no longer allowed to bring our own cleaners. They had to be provided by the school and used by all classes.

If all states are gettin to be like this, that may be why they are going to acrylics. Its just so much easier to regulate and you dont have to worry as much about people breathing, and drips on the floor and such. You can get a big time fine if they find out that brushes were washed in sinks, or chemicals went down a drain..or werent sealed right.
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

The first year painting class I took last year at my local art college used acrylics (and only Golden acrylics, couldn't use the cheaper brands). We did have the option of using acrylics, but the biggest factor for using acrylics was the drying time. We were expected to make a painting a week :-)
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

We use water based oils, no terpentine needed, better for the enviorment, works the same way and dries on surface within 3-4 days. We use acrylics as well, we experiment with different types of mediums. We can't use regular oils since it's unhealthy, and with water soluable colors, why would you want to?
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

At the university I attend in the UK we get a large studio space each, even larger in the degree year. With metal lockable storage bins. We are constantly under pressure to be careful as the insurance comany get really hot under the collar about all these explosive chemicls laying around. What really caused a commotion was when they found a dumped out spliff behind someones partition. They threatened to treble the insurance costs unless the Uni got on top of that situation pronto. They did. I am a non smoker, spliffs or otherwise, so I wasn't me :-). Just thought I'd clear that up.
I mention this because we where only offered acrylics in further education and this may have been an element in that decision. I guess in higher education they are bound to allow us more latitude as it is very much self directed.
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My old art school didn't have a preference - whatever you wanted to use was fine. You would get hassled if you didn't produce enough work of a high enough standard but how you got there was your own choice.
I've never liked acrylics personally because they are always touted as being nearly as good as oils or almost as good as watercolours etc. I think (unless they are in the hands of someone like David Hockney, that they will always look like a half arsed version of something else. Certainly, the only time I've used them was when i was concerned about fumes in the home and found myself jumping through hoops to get them to look like oils.
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Re: Are Schools moving away from Oils to Acrylics?

well last time I did oil, it was a team work in a non ventilated classroom and the canvas was roughle 5 feet to 9 feet. we worked from morning to 4:30 am, before I went to sllep, I remember runnig and stopping amy head felt like it was still going on. This was done using traditional, heavy oils

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