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Old 07-11-2019, 04:08 PM
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M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

I am returning to an old flame after many years...watercolors. Iíve chosen M. Graham as my main brand simply because a local art supplier carries the brand at a great price and letís face it, when you run out of a color in the middle of a project, you need an immediate fix. Who wants to wait on the UPS guy when you have wet paint on your palette?

My question is this. Because M. Graham has a smaller range of colors and because other manufacturers pigments often differ from one another, what additional colors from other brands do you add to your palette? For example, I love Quinacridone Burnt Orange and Quinacridone Magenta but they are not included in the M. Graham color line.

Since I paint a wide variety of subjects, Iím not worried about specific palettes (landscape vs portrait, vs abstract, etc), Iíd love to hear from everyone regardless of your favorite style.
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:53 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

My understanding is that quinacridone burnt orange in Daniel Smith and quinacridone rust in M. Graham are the same. But it is unfortunate about the lack of a PR122/PR202.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:41 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

well, this is a good time to experiment with other red, I highly recommend Quin Red (PR209)

here is a video demonstrating PR209: -> Quinacridone Coral, Benzimida Yellow, Manganese Blue Hue (Limited Palette)
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:25 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

Violet, the DS is slightly more orange than the M Graham. Denise Sodenís In Living Color site has some really nice comparison photos. Once I collect all the colors I want to start with, Iíll experiment with different brands. I am definitely looking for brand suggestions for the magenta and red thatís missing from the M Graham line.

Calvin, do you prefer a specific brand over other manufacturers? Pigment saturation varies among brands and the difference in binders causes the paints to behave differently. I love the Quinacridones, so Iíll probably end up trying identical colors across the manufacturers.

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Old 07-11-2019, 11:04 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

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Calvin, do you prefer a specific brand over other manufacturers? Pigment saturation varies among brands and the difference in binders causes the paints to behave differently. I love the Quinacridones, so Iíll probably end up trying identical colors across the manufacturers.




well, i have yet develop a preference... but i only used winsor and newton and holbein...
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:37 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

I've been an MGr fan for awhile, appreciating the goopy honey-based quality of their paints. The "missing" pigments, like quin. magenta (PR122) I find in Sennelier's lineup- they also use honey as a binder. I find the Sennelier watercolors not as goopy and a little dull and they dry up quicker in the palette. For me, MGr's quin. rose works just as well as magenta, makes fantastic violets, and is a little more versatile.
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:10 AM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

I'd add in Qor Quinacridone Magenta and Holbein Cobalt Violet Light. And perhaps Winsor & Newton Cadmium Scarlet, Brown Madder (PR206) and Permanent Sap Green (PG36+PY110); however they can be easily mixed and it's probably best to have the separate unmixed colors instead for greater versatility.

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Old 07-25-2019, 05:48 AM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

Oops sorry. Totally misread

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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

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I am returning to an old flame after many years...watercolors. Iíve chosen M. Graham as my main brand simply because a local art supplier carries the brand at a great price and letís face it, when you run out of a color in the middle of a project, you need an immediate fix. Who wants to wait on the UPS guy when you have wet paint on your palette?

My question is this. Because M. Graham has a smaller range of colors and because other manufacturers pigments often differ from one another, what additional colors from other brands do you add to your palette? For example, I love Quinacridone Burnt Orange and Quinacridone Magenta but they are not included in the M. Graham color line.

Since I paint a wide variety of subjects, Iím not worried about specific palettes (landscape vs portrait, vs abstract, etc), Iíd love to hear from everyone regardless of your favorite style.

If you can get M Graham for a good price I'd suggest you might need very little else.
Their range is far from limited. Most of the paints on my palette are M Graham. In addition some paints from other manufacturers I consider excellent: PY150 nickel azo Windsor and Newton, PR171 Benzimidazolone Maroon Daniel Smith, PB16 phthalo turquoise Holbein, PBK31 perylene black Daniel Smith, PV23 Dioxazine Violet Winsor and Newton, PR122 Maimeri, PY129 azo green Winsor and Newton . These are either nonexistent in MG range or better than the MG versions.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:35 PM
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Re: M. Graham lovers, what supplemental colors do I need?

"My question is this. Because M. Graham has a smaller range of colors and because other manufacturers pigments often differ from one another, what additional colors from other brands do you add to your palette?"

I like to have Buff Titanium by Daniel Smith on my palette, but M. Graham does not seem to have a comparable color.
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