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Old 12-02-2003, 04:03 PM
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Don't you think those magic blue colors in some old masters paintings are anything else but prussian blue? Prussian blue tends to deep green (at least the ones I could handle), while some old paintings show a pure blue. Vermeer even had genuine ultramarine (lapis lazuli) as one of his preferred colors... so I've heard.

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Thank you, artpapa, that's really good news.

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I think genuine lapis lazuli would be as expensive as it was difficult to find.
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:20 AM
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that's why it was replaced by ultramarine

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I think genuine lapis lazuli would be as expensive as it was difficult to find.

Zarathustra,
I think so too.
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:31 PM
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Alexei,

Don't you think those magic blue colors in some old masters paintings are anything else but prussian blue? Prussian blue tends to deep green (at least the ones I could handle), while some old paintings show a pure blue. Vermeer even had genuine ultramarine (lapis lazuli) as one of his preferred colors... so I've heard.

Ant

Ant,

Probably you right, and that’s okay to use Ultramarine or any colors you like… all depends in what you believe.

I choose Prussian blue many years ago while learning old masters in museums and read towns of books, since then it work to me as one of my basic building color.

To me Ultramarine looks different then I see in the Rubens, Van Dike, Grindery paintings, besides I think contemporary Ultramarine bring unpleasant violate temperature to the mixtures. “…purple-violet tunes is that nuances to be careful with…”- I will repeat after De Maier.

So Lazure Lapis Ultramarine looks to me more like contemporary Prussian blue.

Another think I would like to mention that is a limitation:
Strictly agnostic thoughts: when you limit yourself with the resources Result always better... in other words instead of using several blues- use one.

Like one of the great masters says, you can always go and buy some pigments for coloring but you never will be able to buy the ability to see.

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Alexei,

Don't you think those magic blue colors in some old masters paintings are anything else but prussian blue? Prussian blue tends to deep green (at least the ones I could handle), while some old paintings show a pure blue. Vermeer even had genuine ultramarine (lapis lazuli) as one of his preferred colors... so I've heard.

Ant

One more think about magic blue colors.
According to De Maier: some artists, to prevent brightness of the blue, and avoid yellowness from the oil on top of the fresh blue paint layer they spray dry Lazure Lapis pigment (not finest grain one )and after drying complete they brush away extra powder, after all they cover all surface with the glue and varnish. That’s why sometimes we see pretty rough blue grains, which is did bring amazing affect.
Personally I never tried this, but will love to do it sometimes
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You never answered my question ( way earlier) about whether you are going to get your art tutorials onto DVD for us poor Australians & British who miss out.

do tell

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You never answered my question ( way earlier) about whether you are going to get your art tutorials onto DVD for us poor Australians & British who miss out.

do tell

biki

Biki,
I already purchase DVD editing software, but, honestly, I don't know when I going to make it happen, too much thanks to do...
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Biki,
I already purchase DVD editing software, but, honestly, I don't know when I going to make it happen, too much thanks to do...
Alexei



I have visited your websites.
Looks great! You have a talant!
......... and DVD - is a good adea. I would buy DVD.....
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One question: do you buy "ready to use canvas" or prepare it yourself ?
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Wet Canvas site just gets better and better. You will make an excellent addition to the community Alexei. Welcome!

Thank you for the wonderful tutorial on glass. I paint mostly in acrylics but it is just as helpful with that medium too.

I look forward to reading many more of your posts. You have my admiration and respect.
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I want to thank you for your demos on your website. I learned some very important things , both directly and indirectly. I tried your method of doing the underpainting with a highly diluted varnish, but used copal instead of damar, because the restorers say that the damar will disintegrate when the painting is cleaned. Supposedly copal is harder than damar. In the process I added some damar to my upper layer medium which is mostly walnut oil. The results have been amazing.
I also see in your images in your demo that you are applying paint in tiny lines and then blending. It works very well, especially with this medium. Here is the painting that I started five days ago. It's only two layers so far.
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A great demo mr Antonov!

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I have visited your websites.
Looks great! You have a talant!
......... and DVD - is a good adea. I would buy DVD.....
........
One question: do you buy "ready to use canvas" or prepare it yourself ?

nikonlover, for study purposes I recommend reprime ready to use smooth cotton canvas.
the painting you is going to sell more then 1*000,00$ use linen.
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I think if Leonardo Da Vinci would live in twenty-first century he would definitely have a nice Hasselblad with digital back, digital projector, he would change his computer every other months and, most definitely he would become a moderator on the WetCanvas forum .Alexei Antonov

LOL

Man don't we wish we had Leonardo Da Vinci for a moderator Although, we do not necessarily have to be experts on the subject - some knowledge is of course very helpful - but it's really just more management skills in moderating

Mr. Antonov, I just wanted to give you a sincere thanks for this thread. We will be placing it in the Hall of Fame for future reference, and we surely hope to see you more often in the oils forum, eventhough I know you must be a very busy man - we surely appreciate your contributions !!! I admire you and your work very much.

Tina

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