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December 13, 2018 at 9:46 am #466091
Seems I have enough to learn without adding another language. Some of it is starting to rub off on me but I wouldn’t want to use these terms in a group of non-artists. I think I would come off snooty. I don’t even want to use them on this forum. I’d rather start my painting with a wet coat of brown, take it outside and paint it outside and get it done before I go back inside. Anyone can understand that.:wave:
Dick Hutchings
Daniel Smith Essential 6 colors and Arches 140#December 13, 2018 at 9:57 am #745706Could you elaborate a little more?, sounding professional and or educated is not a sin.
December 13, 2018 at 10:36 am #745735Are you referring to an imprimatura?
Grisaille is French.
December 13, 2018 at 11:22 am #745718For breakfast, I had a cup of coffee with foamy milk instead of a latté. Rather than my usual croissant, I had one of those rolls shaped into a curve.
Maybe for lunch I’ll have a bowl of boiled wheat paste stuffed with ground meat and cheese, instead of ravioli. Or, I might go for the calories and have a spicy sausage with shredded cultured cabbage, instead of bratwurst with sauerkraut.
December 13, 2018 at 11:45 am #745703If I ordered two shots of espresso with milk froth in a small glass my barista would say do you mean a cortado?
Someday everything is going to be different,when I paint my masterpiece.
Bob Dylan.December 13, 2018 at 11:54 am #745736Plein air is also French.
December 13, 2018 at 12:03 pm #745691It is easier to say grisaille, plein air, imprimatura, croquis… than have to explain it with multiple words every time. Why should we have to explain “I drew from the live, nude model” every time instead of just saying “croquis”?
What about all the paint colors with french, german, italian names? “I painted with a deep warm rose color”, instead of just writing “”alizarin crimson”.
What about painting mediums that are in french or italien? Instead of saying “dammar” then “a light yellow glossy resin”. Not as accurate, and could apply to other mediums.
Perhaps we should get rid of the Wet Canvas forums that use french words – the Plein Air forum, the Cafe Guerbois forum…
If I say I paint with brown paint, there are all sorts of guesses you have to make. Did I use brown and add white, to make lighter shades? Or did I use only brown, wiping away areas to get to the white? If I just say imprimatura, then you know already. If you don’t know the word, you can easily read the short, concise definition here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImprimaturaAnd if you aren’t curious, then move on. But in my opinion there is no reason why everyone else should only use the most generic words. This is a painting forum. Basic painting terms are to be expected.
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http://www.artallison.com/December 13, 2018 at 12:30 pm #745719Apparently, Attila the Hun could speak Latin (and possibly German) in addition to his own native language.
Good enough for Attila the Hun, good enough for oil painters!
December 13, 2018 at 12:31 pm #745724The higher up you go the more this is noticeable. Gotta learn the lingo boy if you wanna mix with the big boys.
December 13, 2018 at 1:37 pm #745708I’m working on it but I don’t think anyone that I know would understand me if I used them. This is strictly artist lingo and most of the artists that I know do not have a degree or read forums like I do. I’ll try it out on some of them and see what kind of reaction I get.
Dick Hutchings
Daniel Smith Essential 6 colors and Arches 140#December 13, 2018 at 2:57 pm #745683I’m working on it but I don’t think anyone that I know would understand me if I used them. This is strictly artist lingo and most of the artists that I know do not have a degree or read forums like I do. I’ll try it out on some of them and see what kind of reaction I get.
Hahaha…..Now, if you really want to impress your artist friends, and put on airs with unnecessary Italian lingo, give some of these words a try:
Verdaccio
Chiaroscuro
Imprimatura
Sfumato
Pentimento
SgraffitoBeing a bit of a redneck artist, I’m actually a bit shocked that I find myself actually knowing what most of these high-falootin’ words mean!:lol:
wfmartin. My Blog "Creative Realism"...
https://williamfmartin.blogspot.comDecember 13, 2018 at 3:51 pm #745709If my wife here’s me talking like that she’ll divorce me! She’s a bit of a redneck as well.
Dick Hutchings
Daniel Smith Essential 6 colors and Arches 140#December 13, 2018 at 4:05 pm #745684If my wife here’s me talking like that she’ll divorce me! She’s a bit of a redneck as well.
Hahaha…..Being married to a bluegrass musician/painter will do that to you.:lol:
wfmartin. My Blog "Creative Realism"...
https://williamfmartin.blogspot.comDecember 13, 2018 at 5:15 pm #745687Hahaha…..Now, if you [B]really[/B] want to impress your artist friends, and put on airs with unnecessary Italian lingo, give some of these words a try:
Verdaccio
Chiaroscuro
Imprimatura
Sfumato
Pentimento
SgraffitoBeing a bit of a redneck artist, I’m actually a bit shocked that I find myself actually knowing what most of these high-falootin’ words mean!:lol:
As an artist for 40 years, I can only define 3 of these terms!
Personally, i would encourage you to do what you feel comfortable with. I call all underpaintings, well, underpaintings. The simpler the language, the more people will understand.
That, it seems to me, is the point of communicating. Not using big fancy words that show off how elite you are.
Just my opinion, of course.
Don
December 13, 2018 at 6:26 pm #745692Are we forgetting “Bistre” ? one of my favorite methods of under painting.
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