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Old 07-30-2012, 11:54 AM
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Hey all! I'm hoping to turn this thumbnail sketch into a painting for a competition, but I'm not sure if this scenario with the reflections could happen in real life. It might be a little difficult to see, but I was hoping to have the mountain reflections relatively clear while distorting the elk's reflection. There's also a fairly strong backlighting that will make the top 1/3 of the water be sunlit with no reflections. Does this make sense? I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thanks!

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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

When I am working out a water idea I sometimes get a dish, bowl, or pan put some water in it and turn on some lights. Then get in a position I can se reflection and cause what ever disturbance I need to see effects. You could pin a photo of mountains behind and drag a spoon, finger or whatever through to see distortion.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:22 PM
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That's a good idea, Erica! Thank you!
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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

I have been curious if this worked out for you? How did it go?
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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

Yes Excellent.
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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

Misted,

I'm curious about this. The water's surface is most reflective when smooth like glass. In that state it would perfectly reflect mountains,sky, etc. You would only see large light areas if they were reflections of lights in the sky (behind the mountains).

In choppy water, reflections (if they appear at all) are disrupted and scattered. Glistens happen and large white bursts or streaks of sunlight can appear and may even overtake reflections of other objects in the scene. This may vary depending on the severity of the water's surface.

Although I may not understand your exact question, I don't think the two things I mentioned above can easily happen at the same time. Generally speaking, the water's surface is either calm and reflective or disturbed and scattered. That being said, it may be that you are just looking for a light value behind the elk; in that case a light sky being reflected in that area may be an option as that surface condition also allows for a reflection of the elk. A slightly disturbed surface may be a working solution too.

Just some thoughts and you may have already found a solution yourself.

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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

I think your plan is workable but as MikeN has pointed out the surface needs to be calm in order to reflect. In terms of your painting however the ripples caused by the the movement of the elk through the water could be a very important aspect of the painting. Hopefully you will show us the completed or in progress painting!!!
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Re: Question with Reflections--x-posted from A&W

Oh, so sorry about not posting replies to you guys! I actually forgot about this thread and thought it had been buried by other newer threads.

Thank you so much for all your wonderful input! I actually started this painting, but got very frustrated with it as it was one of those that just "don't work" at the time. I still really like this idea, but I think I will be holding off with the actual painting until I have the time for it and can work things out. But I do plan on posting progress photos when things get started back up again with this one.
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