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    bongo
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        I usually use D rings on the backside of the frame then run the wire to just under the top piece of frame so that when It’s hung the wall hanger won’t be touching the frame and can hang close to the wall (these are float frames with panel paintings).

        My problem is when I have a cross brace I can’t do it that way – open to suggestions.

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        #863251
        MarcF
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            The only way around it that I can see, is use 2 picture hangers at the same horizontal elevation, thus straddling the cross brace. And since you’re using wire (as opposed to fixed eye loops) you should be able to level out the frame after hanging.

            #863247
            bongo
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                Good ideal Mark that should work. Actually, you should use two hooks for all paintings so that they will stay level after hanging and especially for larger paintings to share the weight — but I don’t.

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                #863239
                La_
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                    and/or rotate your vertical cross brace to a horizontal orientation and carry on …

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                    #863248
                    bongo
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                        The way I (unintentionally)drew it, it should be braced the other way.
                        Portrait orientation should be braced horizontally, and Landscape orientation should be braced vertically.

                        Another solution to the problem would be to use two braces (instead of one) placed on either side of center.

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                        #863240
                        La_
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                            ‘should be’ … why?
                            perhaps i’m daft, but what difference would that make to the front of the painting?

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                            #863252
                            MarcF
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                                If the cross brace is horizontal (and not vertical as you drew it), then I don’t see your problem. The cross brace should not interfere with the D rings or hanging wire in that orientation. Can you restate the original problem please?

                                #863238
                                WFMartin
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                                    Sorry, but I do not see your problem. Why would the brace interfere with your hanging wire in the slightest degree? Even if the apex of the loop of your hanging wire were directly behind the brace, what possible interference would that have upon the hanging of the painting?

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                                    #863253
                                    MarcF
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                                        Sorry, but I do not see your problem. Why would the brace interfere with your hanging wire in the slightest degree? Even if the apex of the loop of your hanging wire were directly behind the brace, what possible interference would that have upon the hanging of the painting?
                                        08-04-2019 12:54 PM

                                        it seems to me if you wanted it as flat as possible against the wall – as I think the bongolian had stressed – then the brace and the picture hanger(s) have to be in different locations. The hanger(s) and wire can be below the canvas level by being in the recess behind the canvas except where the cross brace is.

                                        #863249
                                        bongo
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                                            should be’ … why?
                                            perhaps i’m daft, but what difference would that make to the front of the painting?

                                            It’s for stability – makes the frame stronger, and helps support the panel which is subject to bending – so from that standpoint it can effect the front as well.

                                            The brace should be placed perpendicular to the longest dimension. So what ever side is the longest, the brace should be perindicular to it.

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                                            #863241
                                            pa-paw
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                                                Unless the brace is of a greater thickness and somewhat raised above the back of your frame it would be the same as having a solid back frame. A framing wire hanger should work fine.:)

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                                                #863250
                                                bongo
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                                                    This is what I’m trying to avoid (exaggerated to illustrate)

                                                    if the hanger hits any the frame or brace

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                                                    #863242
                                                    pa-paw
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                                                        This is the way that is suggested. If your brace is level with the back of your frame this should work perfectly. :)

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                                                        #863254
                                                        MarcF
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                                                            Pa-paw that does not look like a flush to wall mounting.

                                                            Thebongolian – (Once again), by using more than 1 hanger, and getting everything in the recess behind the canvas (or panel), you should be able to achieve a totally flush mounting.

                                                            #863243
                                                            pa-paw
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                                                                Marc, is right and my post was a complete mistake in not understanding the problem. I used to have a router bit called a Keyhole Slot Router Bit that I have used in the past. You plunge the bit into the back of the picture frame and run it down a length of the frame creating a channel for the head of a nail or screw. You can adjust the depth of the channel desired on the router. The point of the plunge creates a hole in which to insert a nail or screw head that had previously been fastened to a wall. I have a few frames hanging with this system hanging in my home. There are several places such as Rockler Wood Working that sell this type of router bit. I hope this helps.:)

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