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Old 11-03-2019, 02:24 PM
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As an artist viewing other art is the uniqueness of the artwork considered
when you are determining the quality of the piece?
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Re: Uniqueness

Yes, absolutely! I can't count the times that I have stood in front of a piece of someone's art, admiring the uniqueness of it, and thinking to myself, "I could have easily painted that piece, but it was HE who thought of the idea!"
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Old 11-03-2019, 05:48 PM
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Re: Uniqueness

I don't know if uniqueness is the word that I would choose, but definitely I look for something of the artist's hand in the piece. Something that says it is by that artist and no other. When I look at a Tiom Thomson landscape I know immediately it is his. A VanGogh is unmistakable. It may be a common subject, but if it has the stamp of individuality I rate it better.
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Old 11-04-2019, 10:55 AM
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Re: Uniqueness

I agree. I think it could have the opposite effect to. The uniqueness
could turn someone off also.
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Old 11-04-2019, 02:59 PM
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Re: Uniqueness

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I agree. I think it could have the opposite effect to. The uniqueness
could turn someone off also.

I think this is more common than we like to believe.
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Re: Uniqueness

uniqueness is mandatory for developing, for overcoming stagnation

is it sometimes overdone? certainly, but i wouldn't change that for fear of losing the ones done perfectly.

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Old 11-04-2019, 09:13 PM
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Re: Uniqueness

I'm just thinking about how uniqueness is acquired.
How does this sound?
Uniqueness comes about by experimenting and is refined by repetition.
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Old 11-04-2019, 09:28 PM
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Re: Uniqueness

I think it depends. The search for novelty soon becomes cliche as well. Another (roll eyes) attempt at Picassoism. Taste shifts, from right to left like a see-saw. From what I have seen, the artist who becomes "known" for what he/she does has to stick with that or the perish down the long tube of irrelevancy, It is better to be "known" for something that you have some control over.

My own history is that I wanted to do a certain type of art, I devoted myself to it, started Art school, and just as I did, some of the weirdest stages in Modern art hit, (Minimalism, conceptual art) I dropped out of Art School because to me they were juvenile pretentiousness, and not "real art".

The first hour of minimalism was creative. Then the academics took it over. (The only way to do this art is to have a huge institution involved-- where is the door? Where is the room? It is in a big government-funded building.) I would rather make kitch. Kitch is more creative. I love Frazetta, and monsters, and cowboys. I love dinosaurs. Why is walking into an empty room in any way evocative of the human mind? It all boils down to what is art? That Question: What is it? What is it for? Who cares? Why do I care? Why do I do it? I will turn 60 in 2 days. I was going to jump down a cliff at 30. I could not imagine living till 30, and here I am at 60.

The best part of being as old as I am? I can see that people are parrots. They ask the same questions and think the same thoughts as people in the 70's the 60's the 50's and earlier. I do not believe that "creativity" actually exists. It only exists for people who have not experienced it yet. Old people like me have seen it so many times.

Where I started: What is art?
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Re: Uniqueness

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I'm just thinking about how uniqueness is acquired.
How does this sound?
Uniqueness comes about by experimenting and is refined by repetition.


Personal uniqueness comes as you say here ^

Public uniqueness is a whole different beast - somebody, many somebodies have probably already produced what one individual is just now discovering/experimenting with.

To find something truly unique and also desirable, in the public arena ... is very difficult, highly improbable and dare i say, nearly impossible.

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Old 11-05-2019, 12:34 PM
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I think it depends. The search for novelty soon becomes cliche as well. Another (roll eyes) attempt at Picassoism. Taste shifts, from right to left like a see-saw. From what I have seen, the artist who becomes "known" for what he/she does has to stick with that or the perish down the long tube of irrelevancy, It is better to be "known" for something that you have some control over.

My own history is that I wanted to do a certain type of art, I devoted myself to it, started Art school, and just as I did, some of the weirdest stages in Modern art hit, (Minimalism, conceptual art) I dropped out of Art School because to me they were juvenile pretentiousness, and not "real art".

The first hour of minimalism was creative. Then the academics took it over. (The only way to do this art is to have a huge institution involved-- where is the door? Where is the room? It is in a big government-funded building.) I would rather make kitch. Kitch is more creative. I love Frazetta, and monsters, and cowboys. I love dinosaurs. Why is walking into an empty room in any way evocative of the human mind? It all boils down to what is art? That Question: What is it? What is it for? Who cares? Why do I care? Why do I do it? I will turn 60 in 2 days. I was going to jump down a cliff at 30. I could not imagine living till 30, and here I am at 60.

The best part of being as old as I am? I can see that people are parrots. They ask the same questions and think the same thoughts as people in the 70's the 60's the 50's and earlier. I do not believe that "creativity" actually exists. It only exists for people who have not experienced it yet. Old people like me have seen it so many times.

Where I started: What is art?

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Old 11-05-2019, 12:36 PM
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Personal uniqueness comes as you say here ^

Public uniqueness is a whole different beast - somebody, many somebodies have probably already produced what one individual is just now discovering/experimenting with.

To find something truly unique and also desirable, in the public arena ... is very difficult, highly improbable and dare i say, nearly impossible.

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Re: Uniqueness

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I'm just thinking about how uniqueness is acquired.
How does this sound?
Uniqueness comes about by experimenting and is refined by repetition.

Uniqueness for its own sake is a false lead. Be truthful and let your vision of the world evolve. Uniqueness will come if you do.
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Be truthful and let your vision of the world evolve.
I don't think about that when I am painting. I think about color, composition,
value,accuracy, harmony etc.
I really don't know what that means.
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Myself, I did some work that was modestly original. Good enough for me.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:36 PM
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Myself, I did some work that was modestly original. Good enough for me.

Uniqueness is not of great importance to me when I paint.
If any of my stuff was unique it was by accident.
But I do admire that aspect of art.
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