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View Poll Results: How long did it take you to complete your "personal best"?
1-2 hours 6 12.00%
3-8 hours 19 38.00%
2-7 days 11 22.00%
2-4 weeks 6 12.00%
More than 1 month 8 16.00%
6 months or more 0 0%
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:49 AM
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Deborah, Ain't that the truth! I usually say, "Fifty years and two days." I'm a little leary of telling strangers, "Fifty years and two hours". LOL
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Hi Carol, I have to agree with Wendy.
I have always had several pieces of art in the making at the same time.
I will always have to have a room that I don't have to put anything away at the end of my creative session.
A picture will change if you do not look at it for awhile.
you just may decide it does not need very much more work.
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By the way, the classic answer to 'how long did it take you to do this painting?' is "ALL MY LIFE!" As flippant as that sounds, the answer is pretty accurate. My one-hour painting was the result of hours and hours and hours and hours of loving study, classes, painting, workshops, painting, reading, painting, looking, painting, painting and painting. It came after about 20 years of study.

You sound like Alex, my art teacher. I remember him saying that the very first painting he got accepted at the PSA show in New York took him 40 minutes to paint, but 20 years learning how to paint it.

Which means I still have a long way to go since I've only been painting for two! But I confess I voted for 1-2 hours. I have a few painting I may have spent longer on, but very few. Two hours seems to be my outside limit of what I can stand to spend on one painting.
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Okay, I voted for 3-8 hours. This is for a pastel on 12" x 9" paper. I'm not a lifelong artist, and it's my sincerest hope that I haven't already done my personal best.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:26 PM
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Hi, Carol. Goodness---some of my "best-est" or most favorites include pieces that 'just fell into place in moments' and others that I kept working over time. And some are what many would consider really large (40"+ the long direction) and a few are really small (like 8x10") tho most are around 18x26". So---I dunno! I guess, tho, that so many of these have often been pretty fast. There are three among demos I've done on 28x40, " each in about 1.25 hours---that I LOVE! One that is maybe 10" square-ish that won a top major national award, as small as it was among all the others---and it was moments that flowed---and others that I worked for several days to hone in the mid-size. So---???? Lovely when it just falls onto the painting surface NOW, but can also be very delicious and satisfying to nurture and nurture a piece that is flowing along over several days. The very large piece I'm working on now (with an 8-week delay for the killer flu) began two or three weeks before the horrid flu hit so hard. Making a lot of subtle changes---and some that were pretty massive---but to glance at, most people would think there had been no changes. But there are so many wonderful subtle qualities to be played with with this piece. It just seems to DEPEND!

I do find it generally much easier for me to paint a really large or medium piece than a very small piece. If I'm demoing, I work large! For our MAPS Small Painting Shows annually, (argh) I make myself work small (8x10" limit!) I have friends who work far more easily in a very small format---and can hardly do medium or large pieces.

I have noticed that with some artists, they get concerned that if a painting happened toooo fast (as it seems to them) they think it can't be any good.

One of the artists who studies with me does such remarkably gorgeous pastels---and he works slowly. Weeks. Gorgeous! Some work quickly! And some---many---most, probably---do some fast ones and some slower ones.

Just so everyone knows that there can be a lot of variety for any one of us human beings. Machines---probably about the same time per square inch!

But an interesting question. Has been interesting to ponder! And interesting to read others' responses! Thanks! Donna ;-}
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Thanks for chiming in on this one Donna.

Since I started this thread a long time ago, I have found that if I want to be very detailed it will take me days to get results I am happy with, when I paint looser, the paintings just flow and don't absorb as much time. I struggle often with trying to conceptualize the painting and tend to get overly concerned with values/comp/temp...I find myself way off the mark and the spontaneity of the painting is lost. I end up throwing in the towel and burying the piece in my storage portfolio.

To bring up my thought when I started this,, is how incredible Jane Lunds art works are. I don't understand how she can spend months with her painting. She works the paintings inch by inch and must have some sort of grand scheme in mind that she is following. I so wish I had the experience and talent to know how to select each color, each specific type pastel, each type of stroke to create an image that transfers from my brain to the paper - - -and remain intact.

This forum is awesome. I feel like I am still learning to play Chopsticks with Mozart as my music teacher.

ps...Deborah great answer!!!

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Thanks for chiming in on this one Donna.

Since I started this thread a long time ago, I have found that if I want to be very detailed it will take me days to get results I am happy with, when I paint looser, the paintings just flow and don't absorb as much time. I struggle often with trying to conceptualize the painting and tend to get overly concerned with values/comp/temp...I find myself way off the mark and the spontaneity of the painting is lost. I end up throwing in the towel and burying the piece in my storage portfolio.

To bring up my thought when I started this,, is how incredible Jane Lunds art works are. I don't understand how she can spend months with her painting. She works the paintings inch by inch and must have some sort of grand scheme in mind that she is following. I so wish I had the experience and talent to know how to select each color, each specific type pastel, each type of stroke to create an image that transfers from my brain to the paper - - -and remain intact.

This forum is awesome. I feel like I am still learning to play Chopsticks with Mozart as my music teacher.

ps...Deborah great answer!!!

Carol
Hi, Carol! One of the 'mantras' here around Aldridge Studios is "Relate-Relate-Relate!!!" I do spend some time LOOKING at my subject before I begin painting (usually!) There are times when that is impossible, but over the years, I've learned to look for my contrasts and unities, the dynamic energies (or movements), get a sense of the color scheme/relationships and so on. I do have a reputation for painting fast---and as I tell folks---It's cuz I don't start painting quite as soon as others (those times when I'm doing demos along side of others, for example.)

I've believed for years that knowing how to SEE is such a crucial issue for artists. I can understand some of the frustration you are feeling. The other thing is---the more we can "internalize" or "feel" the sense of the subject and the sense that we have about it---the far, far easier it will be 'just know" which stick we want to pick up and how our body wants to move laying on the stroke. Trust yourself maybe a bit more to (what it feels like for some is to simply) loose yourself into the energy of the subject and how you FEEL about it----once you have taken the time to really LOOK and soak it all in and focus in to yourself about what you are really being excited about by the subject.

When artists are rather 'standing at arms' length" just mechanically looking at their subject, they will so often be disengaged and distant---and looking at the subject as only Objects, rather than as Shapes of Colors. Objects is a Left Hemisphered response to the subject. Shapes of Colors is the Right Hemi response---and also the Intuitive response. Intuitive is where we need to be to paint! Left Hemi is a great place to be when we are balancing our checkbook! :-)

Concept is such an important thing to resolve before we paint, I think. Concept and then Composition and then our Color! It's soooo much easier to have fun, to have joy when we paint with those things considered (well---played with, is how I look at it! Yum!!!! Just love that part as much as I love the actual painting!)

Yes---this forum is sooo awesome! Love it! Take good care! Happy, joyful painting! Donna ;-}
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

Depends a bit on skill-level. I've not painted my best painting yet!... :-)

Am speeding up, as I learn more and get more experience. So by now it takes me about 8 hours, if I include photographing, sketching, thumbnails, etc.

One of my favourites was done in 2 hours, but it is a small sketch, not a fully developed large painting. And my least favourite was repainted and took 'forever', and I'm still not happy with it.

But I guess an average is 4-6 hours. And every painting I work on is my current favourite, until two days later, when I've started the new favo!
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Great question, Carol and I have enjoyed reading everyone's answers. I haven't voted yet because I have no idea what I even want my best to look like. If I felt I had a style that would help but I've spent hours on detailed paintings only to declare that they are boring and overworked when I finish. Some of my plein airs are done very quickly but they teeter on the border between "fresh" and "messy." Not happy with them entirely either. So, I guess I'm still searching for what my best could be.

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I voted for 2-7 days. the painting itself took 15 hrs, the time photographing, composing, feeling, the drive there, the walking around, the developing the skills, well that took months and years.

I'm always a bit disturbed by the question of "how long did it take you" For me it took the time the painting demanded, some want to be painted quickly and with energy, others want time to savor and mold. Western culture seems very focused on speed, more than the journey itself. I paint with a woman whose works sell for thousands. she works in oils. She paints and repaints and repaints some more. We ask her how she knows when it's done. Her answer is when it tells me. My answer is when I think the journey has taken me as far as I want to go and I'm ready for a new journey.
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

hard to answer as Im always chasing the elusive "best"

To honestly answer, Im advancing with every work and hopeing that trend will continue as long as Im able to produce
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I really never time myself (except when I've done one for WDE for fun). .... I don't think I would enjoy painting if I felt it had to be timed.
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Re: How long did it take to complete your "personal best"?

I'll let you all know when I complete " my best"!!!!!!!!

Have done them in very short periods of time and extended periods of time but I'm still waiting for "my best"!

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Wow, These are some awesome reflections! Great answers from all!

Trilby-well stated! You are getting as good with the written word as you are with your art.

Richard - don't you have one painting that is more meaningful to you than the others. The subject really hit a sweet spot? It may not be your "best" but a personal favorite. Mine was the first one I did- no experience, no thoughts or knowledge about temperature, value.... but it is packed with my emotions. No one else would consider it my best, but it has the most meaning to me.

Blue - PLEASE post it when you discover you have painted your "BEST"...promise?

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In art history class, I learned that Notre' Dame in Paris took many centuries of work to complete, giving it the look of a disjuncted period architecture. Or was it another famous building? (So much for my art history retention!) And, it takes a Doctor several years of training to become a Doctor. So if one were to paint and out comes a masterpiece, I'd have to vote on the alloted time to complete. For me, with a young family I get many interruptions before I can finish a piece. My personal best took about 2-3 weeks, but my most successful piece took 2 days! This is a hard question! Ugh! I like Deborah's answer too!
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