WetCanvas
Home Member Services Content Areas Tools Info Center WC Partners Shop Help
Channels:
Search for:
in:

Welcome to the WetCanvas forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit our help center.

Go Back   WetCanvas > Explore Media > Drawing and Sketching > The Classroom
User Name
Password
Register Mark Forums Read

Salute to our Partners
WC! Sponsors

Our Sponsors
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #301   Report Bad Post  
Old 05-30-2016, 10:10 AM
ruiting ruiting is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 8
 
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Thank you for the encouragement in the last two assignments. Here is the 3rd one. I first made rough lines using ruler and then draw with hands. It's been a good practice for straight lines. I have no idea how to shade to make them look more real, especially the glass....

Reply With Quote
  #302   Report Bad Post  
Old 05-30-2016, 04:38 PM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

ruiting -
Good job on the perspective .
I have one comment: the biggest obstacle in drawing realistically is freewheeling on your imagination and not carefully observing the reality. You applied the same vanishing point for the top of the clock and the wall. But look at the reference, and indeed at the way you drew the bottom (blue line), the clock is not oriented parallel with the tiles. So, it must have a different vanishing point, in this case more to the right.



These classes have some structure, shading is in class 8. There is a reason, start your journey concentrating on the correct forms and proportions. Look how you drew the glass bigger than on the reference. And the top of the clock is completely off in proportion.

Keep up the good work
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote
  #303   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-07-2016, 05:35 AM
ruiting ruiting is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 8
 
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

[/url]

Thank you arnoud for checking for my last drawing. I made another effort today and tried to focus more on perspective. Thanks again.

Last edited by ruiting : 06-07-2016 at 05:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #304   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-07-2016, 02:48 PM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Very good job, ruiting .
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote
  #305   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-12-2016, 07:50 PM
GeneH2016 GeneH2016 is offline
Member
Minneapolis area
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 73
 
Hails from United States
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

All in all I found this lesson challenging, especially the stacked cubes of the clock. I even stacked cardboard boxes to help me visualize how the corners and overlapped were supposed to look.

I started with the mantel with the clock, and couldn't get the proportions and position of the clock right, so stepped back and did just the clock, the redrew the clock on the mantel.

**First up is just the clock picture: I did this mostly freehand until it looked right, then straighten things out and attempted edges without lines.

Problems: I can't help but think the clock head and face are turned more to me than the body and base. Is that because the head (top cubes) VP is just a little low on the horizon compared to the base cubes VP?

**Second up is the mantel with clock and shotglass.

Problems:

clock: back of the clock base kept appearing to hang over the back of the mantel. Had trouble with the facing corners that seemed to line up all the time, but seems to me that's just not right. Also the amount of overhang on the left and right corners seemed too much - didn't look right.

The corrections, even after doing the clock-only drawing, just didn't go well. I think the mantel needed to be resized to fix the clock size and positioning. Right?


shot glass: didn't realize until done the shot glass is on a different plane. Front to back distance indicates viewing from a higher angle than the mantel or clock.


*Last up are the dice: These I ended up doing freehand until looked approximately right, then straightened out the lines. The picture does not show the top shading and the front shading is lighter than the drawing.

Problems: hard time getting the dots right - not all lined up, too much or not enough ellipse.
Attached Images
   
__________________
2016:Starting pencil drawing to emulate my film photography: faces of people and pets that exhibit and evoke pleasant emotion. (wow that sounds pompous.)
The devil is going to be in the details....
Reply With Quote
  #306   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-13-2016, 03:29 PM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Good job, Gene, nice finishing rendering.
On the other hand, the basic principle is: first the big shapes, details come later.
You seem to have problems with proportions.
And the lessons of previous class are not yet automatically applied.



1. All lines in a group of parallel lines share the same VP.
-- the top and bottom of the clock point in the same direction, they must have the same VP.
-- all grout lines run parallel, idem ditto.
2. Not explicitly explained in previous class, but an obvious corollary: lines that are not parallel, cannot have the same VP. The grout lines and the top of the clock definitely are not parallel.

Additionally: all VP's of horizontal lines lie on the same and only HorizonLine aka EyeLevel .

The circle in perspective (the dial) is not for this class, but look here, what is correct?



I think that all in all you are ready for next class, please move on
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom

Last edited by arnoud3272 : 08-13-2016 at 03:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #307   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-13-2016, 08:37 PM
GeneH2016 GeneH2016 is offline
Member
Minneapolis area
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 73
 
Hails from United States
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

*Now * I see what the problem with the mantle, bet that's why I had trouble getting the clock positioned. No idea how I mussed the VP on the clock.

Thanks for the compliments too.
__________________
2016:Starting pencil drawing to emulate my film photography: faces of people and pets that exhibit and evoke pleasant emotion. (wow that sounds pompous.)
The devil is going to be in the details....
Reply With Quote
  #308   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-22-2016, 10:30 PM
Josh.Johnston's Avatar
Josh.Johnston Josh.Johnston is offline
New Member
Aurora, CO
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 8
 
Hails from United States
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

I finished the dice and realize that I did not apply perspective thoroughly while also applying more than one eye level





My most recent attempt at a rubix cube still life.




I feel I'm getting closer but it's definitely challenging to gauge vanishing points when a subject is only a few feet away. Thanks for looking and c&c!
Reply With Quote
  #309   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-24-2016, 03:50 PM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Good job, Josh .
In learning, dedicated practice is more important than the actual result. Some say that you learn most from your errors .
You're definitely on the right track
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote
  #310   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-24-2016, 05:11 PM
Josh.Johnston's Avatar
Josh.Johnston Josh.Johnston is offline
New Member
Aurora, CO
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 8
 
Hails from United States
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

I traced and transferred after correcting perspective. In the process, I seem to have created a slope to my vertical lines, or exaggerated perhaps, so I did further correcting on this draft.



I think I overcompensated and balanced out the perspective so it doesn't seem to get much smaller over at least a moderate distance...

Thanks for looking, c&c welcomed by all.
Josh
Reply With Quote
  #311   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-25-2016, 02:51 PM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Yes, you overcompensated.
Tracing is often rejected as cheating, but even tracing is a skill that needs practice .
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote
  #312   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-26-2016, 07:00 PM
Josh.Johnston's Avatar
Josh.Johnston Josh.Johnston is offline
New Member
Aurora, CO
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 8
 
Hails from United States
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Thanks Arnoud for the feedback. Yes, tracing is a skill of its own and I obviously didn't give its due patience I slowed down, taped down and kept a level surface this round! So, here's hoping third time's a charm





Thanks for c&c!
Josh
Reply With Quote
  #313   Report Bad Post  
Old 08-27-2016, 02:52 AM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote
  #314   Report Bad Post  
Old 09-01-2016, 07:14 PM
Moving On Moving On is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 68
 
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Hi Arnoud,

Here are my attempts thus far. As always, thank you for your help!
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote
  #315   Report Bad Post  
Old 09-02-2016, 11:30 AM
arnoud3272's Avatar
arnoud3272 arnoud3272 is offline
Moderator
A village near Antwerp
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,647
 
Hails from Belgium
Re: Basic 101: Class 3 - Drawing Cubic Objects

Moving On -
You understand how to get the correct perspective for isolated objects .
But what is wrong with this picture ?



Every line in a set of parallel lines goes to the common VP. Independent of the object it belongs to. Even if it is the sole line on that object.
All your furniture shares the front planes. Being rectangular objects, all side planes run also parallel. So all these "VL's" must come together.



Keep up the good work
__________________
Arnoud
C&C welcome.

Moderator
Drawing and Sketching Forum Guide for D&S Classroom
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:50 AM.


© 2014 F+W All rights reserved.