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        Happy New Year, everyone! :D
        I hope that 2012 will be a great year for you all, and may your artistic muse flourish! :music:

        And welcome to the January edition of Talking Heads!
        This is the thread where you can talk or share thoughts or links… or whatever … related to portraiture.. or perhaps a little off-topic.
        You can show us art that inspires you, portraits you are working on, whatever you’d like to share. :thumbsup:
        If you have a question or a quandary, this is the place, and perhaps someone here can help… or commissurate. :D

        Grab a coffee, tea, or some juice and sit on down on the comfy couch or in the rocking chair. There is a porch swing too, and a beanbag chair. We do our best to accommodate you all. :D

        Cheers, Lauren
        https://www.facebook.com/LaurenFosterMacLeod/
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        #519293
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            I’ll start things off! :D

            In yesterday’s “Ottawa Citizen” (our local town newspaper), there was an article (in two parts; links to both are below) that I found both interesting and disturbing; about a local artist who has lied about his work, in regards to his education and where his work has been shown. I’d like to know what you think about this guy, and if anything like this has happened in your art community.

            http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/artful+dodger/5929208/story.html

            http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/spree+self+promotion+what/5930955/story.html

            Cheers, Lauren
            https://www.facebook.com/LaurenFosterMacLeod/
            Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauren.fosterm/

            #519322

            I think it is quite an indication of the times where the resume speaks louder than the artwork. It seems like if someone in the established art-world says that the work is worthy, then others will follow suit (fashion?) and agree that the work must be prestigious. Otherwise- as is proven, the paintings would not be hung where they were. I would hope an artist’s paintings could be found interesting by the nature of the work itself and not what others say. I don’t have any respect for this art and its kind, it is not beautiful or show any level of skill to my eyes.
            If this guy spent as much time getting the art skills and learning he says he has, as he did running the scam- he might have some real success.

            bethany
            moderator in figures & portraits blogs: artbybethany life-presence
            website www.bethanyart.com
            My inspiration is art... because without art, we would just be stuck with reality. ~Daniel R. Lynch

            #519294
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                The guy is a liar; esp. on his resume, and in his bios that are found online. He tries to dance around it in the newspaper interview, but his behaviour makes us all look bad, I think.

                The gallery owners can no longer just trust what we artists present to them. The public must be more suspect about the credibility of the artists whose work they are considering buying, and whether its value will be an investment.

                I also wonder about the quality of the actual paintings, and whether they will fall apart in time. If he’s so dishonest with everything else — and I don’t see any art school training in his bio — who knows how archival his paintings are. These days artists and galleries are being sued over work that falls apart. Even Odd Nerdrum’s works are guilty of this. When I look at modern works for sale in the local galleries, I often wonder how they will age.

                Cheers, Lauren
                https://www.facebook.com/LaurenFosterMacLeod/
                Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauren.fosterm/

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                NancyMP
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                    All I present to galleries and potential buyers is my work. Period. I think the man is seriously delusional if he really holds the opinion that his work is just beyond today’s understanding. Every true artist I know, including those who have world-wide fame, has self-doubt at times. If one has no doubt, one never improves, and art is not static.

                    He’s a world class scam artist. I would like to find some of his work online; they didn’t show any in the news articles.

                    If you get branded for being a liar, who knows what to believe is true about you?

                    Nancy http://nancyparkfineart.com
                    All human beings are dream beings. Dreaming ties all mankind together. - Jack Kerouac

                    #519343
                    NancyMP
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                        I just delivered 17 paintings to the Oklahoma University Medical Center, and I’ll go take a picture of them Wednesday after they are hung.

                        In the folder I made to accompany them, I simply tell them who some of my collectors are, and show thumbnails of the paintings with their sizes and prices. Since they are all realism, they just speak for themselves…

                        Nancy http://nancyparkfineart.com
                        All human beings are dream beings. Dreaming ties all mankind together. - Jack Kerouac

                        #519295
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                            Congratulations, Nancy! :clap:
                            I look forward to seeing photos of the work in that show. :thumbsup:
                            Thanks for your comments on that article.

                            I just got back from going to a show (last day for it) at the National Gallery of Canada here in Ottawa. The show is called “Drawn to Art: French Artists and Art Lovers in 18th-Century Rome” and was mostly drawings done by such artists as Boucher, Fragonard and David, plus a few who were new to me. My friend and I had a great time looking at the drawings, and one of the guards was kind enough to lend us a magnifying glass to see find detail on some amazing studies of wall details at the Vatican. Quite an interesting show. Now I’d love to copy some of that work, and learn a few of their techniques. :thumbsup:

                            Cheers, Lauren
                            https://www.facebook.com/LaurenFosterMacLeod/
                            Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauren.fosterm/

                            #519344
                            NancyMP
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                                Wow, Lauren, it sounds like something that might make a good challenge, doing drawings of heads after the French masters. I’m going to take a look and see if Bouguereau (my fave rave!) has a body of drawings someplace.

                                Nancy http://nancyparkfineart.com
                                All human beings are dream beings. Dreaming ties all mankind together. - Jack Kerouac

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                                babysmama
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                                    Hi Nancy! I have completed 2 studies of Bouguereau. I adore him. I was lucky to live in New Orleans for 29 years and be able to study his work in our Museum there. Also The Appleton in FLA has a beauty. I would love to do a challenge.

                                    #519345
                                    NancyMP
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                                        If wishes were horses…I live where the best western artists are shown in our museum, and I love it! But I would go camp out in New Orleans if I could study the Bouguereaus there.

                                        To think, his art was never seen when I was at the university, when I was studying painting, and learning my craft. I do feel cheated by the late 50s and early 60s!

                                        Nancy http://nancyparkfineart.com
                                        All human beings are dream beings. Dreaming ties all mankind together. - Jack Kerouac

                                        #519296
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                                            Nancy, when I was at art school back in the 1970s, they never mentioned Bouguereau in Art History class… or anywhere else. In our Art History textbook for that period (in my last year), I think he is mentioned in one paragraph, but not really lauded at all. We did learn more about the Impressionists, and Whistler: my art history professor loved Whistler! I think he saw himself as a bit of a dandy. :lol: (I do like Whistler’s work a lot)

                                            While I find the subject matter of Bouguereau’s work kind of trite, he painted beautifully, and I think he taught a lot, so his methods have been passed on.

                                            Our national gallery in town here only has one small tree painting by him, but the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts (just 2 hours away) has 3 or 4 of his works, some quite large, and including his self-portrait. They also have a lovely Tissot painting, which I love. We have a lovely large Tissot here in Ottawa, too.

                                            The interesting thing about the Tissot, is that the surface is still perfect; like it was done recently. Amazing!

                                            Cheers, Lauren
                                            https://www.facebook.com/LaurenFosterMacLeod/
                                            Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauren.fosterm/

                                            #519323

                                            I am in the process of getting all my pastel portraits-from-life ready for our annual exhibition on the 14th. I put the drawing paper and some card to make them firm and wrap them in cellophane. We then just use fold-back clips to hang them. Simple enough, but takes a bit of time to get 23 drawings ready to hang.
                                            I think about making them as archival as possible, even to getting cellophane that has “breathability” for the paper, though it may just be for a short while.

                                            I think the intent and care an artist takes with the paintings must count for something. Integrity? I would not dream of asking money for any painting of mine that was not the best materials and honestly painted. Am I out of step with fashion- probably!

                                            bethany
                                            moderator in figures & portraits blogs: artbybethany life-presence
                                            website www.bethanyart.com
                                            My inspiration is art... because without art, we would just be stuck with reality. ~Daniel R. Lynch

                                            #519320
                                            Clive Green
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                                                Happy New Year team :)

                                                My exhibition has been brought forward by a week so I’ve got portraits drying under the bathroom heater because it’s too humid to leave it to nature. I’m going to have to label three of them as WIP’s in any case. Luckily I have other works in pastel, charcoal, encaustic and acrylic that I have already prepared.

                                                I still have no references to Bouguereau in any of my art reference materials, never having even heard of him until I joined wetcanvas, but that doesn’t worry me – I don’t like his work.

                                                :cool: Kia Ora o Aotearoa Feckless and Irresponsible
                                                My website http://www.otaki-artist.com
                                                #519338
                                                joolee
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                                                    Goodness, what on earth is going on? I know there was a problem with threads and posts disappearing a few days ago but I posted a new thread yesterday, and posted on other threads and everything appears to have disappeared again. I feel very unloved!!

                                                    Jools

                                                    I fully expect this post to self destruct in the next few minutes :confused:

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                                                    #519337
                                                    kevinwueste
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                                                        Goodness, what on earth is going on? I know there was a problem with threads and posts disappearing a few days ago but I posted a new thread yesterday, and posted on other threads and everything appears to have disappeared again. I feel very unloved!!

                                                        Jools

                                                        I fully expect this post to self destruct in the next few minutes :confused:

                                                        all posts, thread and pms from 1/8-9 ( in general) are gone. they may return but the developers did an update and made executional errors that have left us missing work from members. apparently the database is now so large that it is a “challenge” for them to manage. I don’t have any better data than that!

                                                        kevin

                                                        i draw, paint and teach | my voice is hoarse | my shoulder hurts.
                                                        Talent is really a capacity for a certain type of learning of knowledge and a consuming interest in the facts that contribute to that knowledge~ Andrew Loomis
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