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Old 02-08-2020, 12:41 PM
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Tropical fish - background?

I like the way the fish turned out. I am now wrestling with whatís next.

My original thought was a Dean Crouser like mix of color and splatter - like I do many of my birds.

What would you do? Leaving it be seems a poor option as I think the white is too stark.

Pale green swatches with a few dark green leaves (tall and thin)?

This is small 6x10. Arches paper using DS paints. Itís really just a practice run...

Thomas


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Old 02-08-2020, 03:11 PM
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Re: Tropical fish - background?

This is boring.

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

Tried to get bolder...created an ugly mess. Not even gonna show it. This was a piece of scrap paper, and I was experimenting, but I still feel sad about it.

I will start again tomorrow.

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

Hi Col.,

When a watercolor turns into a mess ... that's when the fun just begins ~

But why knock yourself out - when attempting to work out a color scheme?

One of my favorite mentors - Napoleon Hill ... once said in 1937 ...
"what the mind can conceive - one can achieve."

That's why I ran your BORING composition through Topaz Studio 2.2

Your original composition is super strong - look what can happen with it ...

Option 1



Option 2



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PS - The artist today does not have to beat oneself up ...
the way Norman Rockwell did almost 70 years ago -
(literally painting through 30-40 iterations)...
to figure out the best color scheme.

Today we have help ... the PC.
Paint your original. Then - get the look.
Then repaint it.

You don't want people to say about YOUR paintings ... "Hmmm - reminds me of Dean Crouser."

Remember what Dean Crouser says ... " I make a concerted effort to be loose and spontaneous and let the paint flow freely to create the Ďaccidentsí that are possible with watercolors when they are allowed to work on their own."

But he has a lifetime of observing his subject matter - Crouser spent childhood summers camping and fishing on the foothills of Mt. Hood, Columbia River Gorge and Central Oregonís Cascade Lakes. It was these early outdoor experiences and appreciation of natural scenic beauty that provides the groundwork of inspiration for his artwork today.

So - do it YOUR way.

* If I told you more about what Topaz can do with your composition -
you wouldn't believe it.

So - you'll just have to see it for yourself.

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

I have yet to use the computer to help me - perhaps itís time I look at options. I do like the strong rose bits. When I work today, I will explore it.

BTW - if folks said my work reminded them of Crouser, I think Iíd be pleased! Remember - I have only been painting for three years, and watercolors for one. If people see my work on that level, itís great.

Although I do take your point about finding my own way.ll

Thanks.

Thomas

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

Depends on your goal?

I humbly suggest what I'd try. Thinking of natural environment...

I'd attempt a background gradient from top to horizon line of pale blue to chromatic blue leaning brown/black. Then downwards from horizon line to foreground, the same black at darker value in gradient to something warm like quin. burnt orange, or a pr101 burnt Sienna at the bottom... and then try to weave it all together for unity and depth with indications of submerged branches, or a log. That'll give the opportunity to create paths, push the dark values directly behind the fish to make em' pop, and unify the whole while adding depth. I think it could all be done wet into wet with one wash.

These fish are great. Even if you think they are boring, they're still interesting. Enjoy painting!
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Old 02-09-2020, 11:54 AM
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Re: Tropical fish - background?

Pigment Pusher's words convey a powerful painterly suggestion ~

Now see how Corel PaintShop Pro can convert his words into meaningful images ...

within seconds...



Or a lesser gradient with Topaz ...



Or no gradient ... just use smashing light with Topaz ...



All I'm sayings is - as visual artists ... get the 'picture' in your mind and ...

and the execution of the painting becomes a lot easier.

If you don't have the 'picture' in your mind ... let the PC help you get there.

Then all you have to ask yourself is ... 'with what I know now ... how do I do that?'

My father used to say ... "that's why we have maps."

Today ... for the visual artist - The PC is better than a flashlight in the wilderness ...

Of course - if you really are in the wilderness ... it helps to actually

have a flashlight ... and some bug spray.

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Picassolite

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

This is acrylic - and thereís a glare from the still wet paint (I use Golden Opens) but hereís what I did with the idea. In acrylic I know how to move from dark to light...keeping lights with a dark wash in watercolor challenges me. Yes - I am familiar with masking fluid. I havenít been satisfied with the results when using it.

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

A better pic.

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Re: Tropical fish - background?

This is more what I had in mind. I really have to work hard to use the watercolors differently than I do the acrylics. This looseness - to me - is what watercolors are all about.

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Have to fix the abrupt line of orange/blue around his eye...



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This is more what I had in mind. I really have to work hard to use the watercolors differently than I do the acrylics. This looseness - to me - is what watercolors are all about.

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The iteration in post #9 is really nice!
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