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Old 06-22-2010, 07:48 PM
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Hi!

Thought I'd share a WIP of a new commissioned fantasy piece. I am just in the thumbnail sketch stage, but, I thought some might find the process from vague idea to finished painting interesting...so, here goes!

Warning! This will have female frontal nudity...so proceed at your own risk! LOL!

This will be a fantasy painting of a centaur couple bathing at a river, sized 12x16 painted in alkyd oils on an Art & Enns polystyrene panel. Here is what my client initially wrote that he would like to see in this painting, but, this is all preliminary and this will be an evolution of both his ideas and mine as this progresses!

"Him bending over, cupping the water in his hands ready to drink (on the right or left of the picture)*** with his Mate already in the pond washing (splashing) her upper body! (In or near the middle if the pond). She will be facing the viewer! A NICE figure! IF you will do a nude front... The splashed water CAN cover her Privates*** The water will be up to her horse chest a couple of inches,( I like to see the horse chest muscles) LOL!, so her lower legs are under water. They travelled for a couple of days through dusty territory & SHE HAD to get in the water & start washing. Her pack, tack & clothes will be on the bank with his pack, tack & clothes near him. He WILL be unclothed & ready to go in with her in a few minutes, after a long drink. . It can have a canyon back drop to be different from the original picture. Plus plants, & small critters such as chip monks, or ground hogs or lizards. You get the idea. She should have a white horse body, long white hair & tail with a normal pinkish skin upper human body. I would like him to be a buckskin horse body with black stockings from the knees, short or medium black hair & medium black tail with a short mane down his human back. He can have a short beard or be clean shaven. His human upper body can be tanned. * no fur please). I would guess this is a offshoot pond from a river. "

These are the first sketches and I am waiting for his response on these to see which direction to go from here.



This was the 1st sketch done in a 4x6" sketchbook using ebony pencil...very rough!

#2 Moved to an 11x14" pad using vine charcoal and charcoal hb pencils.

#3 This one I left out the background as I can fill that in around the figures once I know what positions they will be in. In this sketch, I was trying to work out a comp with the two figures close to each other.


Another variation with the female up close.

..And reversed. That will be thier discarded gear, clothing, weapons on the bank. I'm playing with differant backgrounds as well with these.

This is where it is now. I'll update as soon as I have something more to add!
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Hey very nice drawing and not often someone does a fantasy oil painting. Great stuff, I especially like the unusual situation where the centaur is drinking, you don't see that every day I think you did a good job there, the transition from horse to torso look very convincing. I like the lady too but really like what you did with the male one.
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Hi, Adriantmax!
Glad you like the drawings. They are rough, but, my goal at this stage is to come up with the basic composition that works for myself and my client. The centaurs are interesting creatures, aren't they? I've been painting them now since 2005/2006, and, my centaur anatomy has evolved quite a bit during that time. LOL! It's not like I have a wild centaur sanctuary nearby that I can run out to when I need to make anatomy and behavioral studies! In liu of live models, however, I just try to make my centaurs as balanced and believable in both form and motion as I can.

OK, after looking over the sketches, my client says he likes #4 best so that is the one!



Some changes he suggested are to move the branch more to the right to leave more clear space around the centauress, and, he would like some splashed water, perhaps from her hand splashing some water on her face to cool off, or, swinging her tail to whip up some droplets. We'll see what comes of that! Next stage is to draw this up to scale with the changes and prepare it to be transfered to the board - which has been ordered, but, has not arrived yet...so, could be a few days wait there. 'Til later...
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WOW! Kerry! I love your style and drawings from imagination. So precise even these are at initial stage. Beautiful work and approach towards the composition...Great Visualization . I loved the anatomy of Horse and Human. I admire your work as it comes alive from mind's eye. Bless you . BTW I loved 5th composition very much for its surrounding landscape but may be for future use in big size .

It's really looking wonderful start Kerry. I'll follow your WIP seriously to learn something from you my friend and I know I'll find something unique here for sure x x.

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Somehow the centaur bending over to drink just doesn't look right to me. It doesn't seem to me that a centaur should be able to bend over that far and so it creates the appearance of a man sticking his head out of a horse suit. Maybe he should be kneeling on his front legs instead, or at least have them angled backward so as to lower his torso and require less bending? Just a thought...
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Somehow the centaur bending over to drink just doesn't look right to me. It doesn't seem to me that a centaur should be able to bend over that far and so it creates the appearance of a man sticking his head out of a horse suit. Maybe he should be kneeling on his front legs instead, or at least have them angled backward so as to lower his torso and require less bending? Just a thought...
Me too I have this impression: there is something strange in his position;
really, it is more likely that a Centaur would drink as a man would, than as a horse would.
I would study more this position, probably drawing the skeleton of the horse first, and then finding a convincing continuation to the human skeleton.
"...kneeling on his front legs..."? It seems a good idea; or, standing normally, drinking from an old jar...

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Rahul, it is good to see you posting here! I didn't think I could get away with posting another centaur painting in the A&W forum, lol! Of course, I could add in some wildlife, maybe a frog or turtle and then post it there and say it's a painting about a frog! Ha! I also like that landscape in the last sketch and may have to paint it, maybe as a backdrop for something else, or, just a landscape! Thankyou for the nice comments, and, I hope you enjoy this wip!

Bob, this one's for you... I see them as being very flexible!


If you would like to see more of my centaur art I have a lot of them here;
http://www.ebsqart.com/Art/Centaur-A...tic-Dancer.jpg
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The curve of the spine and the squash of the abdominal region work for me in most of them I can see the force and gesture and to me they seem believable to me in all but the first sketch. I look forward to seeing how these progress. After visiting visiting Kerry's website I'm quite excited about this one
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Thankyou, Adriantmax! I will have to work the fine details of my 'taurs figures yet. I tend to make a lot of adjustments throughout my painting process, so, even my final transfered drawing may end up with a lot of changes before it is called done. Now, I better get off this computer and get some art done, lol! This computer is the 'kiss of death' to productivity!
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Re: Bathers - WIP

Just thought I'd add this link to a previous WIP of a very complex centaur painting I finished just a few months back.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591896

My new panel and and 3 new tubes of paints will be in tomorrow, so, there should not be any delays in getting this new painting going! I've been upgrading my alkyds as I use them up from the Griffin Alkyds I started with (Griffin was the only brand I knew about when I switched to alkyds) which are pretty much student grade, to DaVinci pro grade and, now I'm going to try some CAS Alkyd Pro which sounds like a truly artist grade alkyd paint (FINALLY!). Can't wait to try them out!
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Hi Kerry: good to see you here again! Love the drawings...let us know how you like the CAS alkyds. I have been curious about their performance. As always, your drawing skills are superb..
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Just went to visit the other thread, FANTASTIC, like a master illustrator ( in a good way) I too think the man looks a bit awkward, but I know you constantly change things as you go and it will work out, so holding comment on that. Really love that other work...you should have some writer make up a novel and have that as a cover...
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I think posture of Drinking Centaur in this composition is perfect to me and agree with Kerry's imagination & her experience in equine art and me too never seen Horse knelt for drinking water ever. Moreover its looking very difficult for horse to kneel...In Centaur only upper body is of human so to control the rest of the body...Centaur need to behave like a horse and not like human...!!!

Moreover, I really feel sorry and sad for horse when I see Horse kneel down in the horse show to obey the command of the trainer

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I like Kerrys' Drinking Centaur the way he is. A little tweaking can be good. I saw her first picture of the Drinking, "Cool, cold Water" Centaur and loved it. Unfortuneately I saw it after it was bought. That is why I commissioned her to do a new expanded version of the scene. In 4 years I have purchased over 50 Centaur Character oil paintings from Kerry. All sizes. I like & trust her vision of what a Centaur looks like, their physical limitations, & any and all societies they may have. Whether they are in the past, modern day or on their own planet or dimension. My thoughts of Centaurs as a Possible Intellegent Race in the universe is & are along Kerrys! I have been collecting Fantasy/Mythical art (Mostly Centaurs & Mermaids) since 1975. My collection of art plus everything else( Prints, books, posters, Comics, Etc.) run into the 1000's of pieces. Kerry in my mind, I as a Mythical character collector deem her an expert oil artist & imaginator of Fantasy characters. Her animals are near perfect in their surroundings also! Too bad I do not collect Animals. I will continue to bid, buy & commission her on her fantasy Centaur Paintings far into the Future! I am Happy to have found her & proud to be one of her Patrons as much as I can! Chiron22 PS. I also have the surperb oil painting, "Anniversary Adoerment" on the wall in front of me. Chiron22

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