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Old 09-15-2018, 06:17 AM
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

I started painting more or less because of Bob Ross. I tried to paint like he did and moved on from there. Now my way of painting has nothing to do with his way, but he got me painting. So if you think you will enjoy it, go for it!
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:28 PM
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

Even in some of his classes, Ross did not "tell all". He certainly is not on the shows. Have you seen any of Bill Alexander's videos? He was Ross' teacher. You may find him a better instructor.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

I thought Bob's show were great. He showed a non-stress way of creating a painting. He is a great way to introduce someone to painting.
It is only a first step ,but it can get you hooked to learn more.

My fist TV painter was Bob Fagan with Painting on location. He did watercolour.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

You gotta start somewhere. I inherited a bunch of supplies and books. Several of the books were Bob Ross season recap books, so I figured I'd do a few youtube episodes, so I could know how to use the books better.

My goal is to do plein aire paintings. I hold down the classic 7-4 office cube job during the day.

Here is my progress over the past 6 months give or take.

https://jaebeam.imgur.com/
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I think it matters that we learn, not how we learn or what method we choose. Go for it, just keep the hair straighteners available.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

Cheeseball and totally fun to watch whether you are a professional or not. Take what you like from it, discard the rest. Come on, who doesn't like to watch Bob Ross slap the crud out of his brush while talking about happy clouds? Do you not like puppies and kittens either?
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

Yes....slapping a brush full of solvent into the air.
I agree with Ochre....a good place to start and then move on.
You don't want to paint with a formula all the time.
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Yes....slapping a brush full of solvent into the air.

The method was not very intelligent. The poor fella didn't live very long in doing so. But, again, it was fun to watch him.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

Not sure if it was stated quite like this, but I am new to painting all together. I took art classes during high school and never really found much interest in it at that time in my life. As I grow older, I have put down video games and replaced it with a creative streak of wood working and painting and I have to admit, making something is quite a bit more satisfying than video gaming. After i put the brush down, there is still evidence that i actually did something on a canvas. What got me inspired was watching Bob Ross take a few brush strokes with an ordinary house painting brush and 10 minutes in, you are blown away by the shapes and the blunt, yet still very elegant brush strokes magically turn into a breath taking landscape or seascape. I have viewed many oil paintings in my life and honestly, never even gave them a second thought. As I invest more and more time into this craft, I get to notice things like shading, backrounds, foreground, etc...
If you want to have fun learning a Bob Ross style of painting, it's your prerogative. He is super relaxing, fun to listen to and fun to watch.
Also, even his techniques require a proper hand movement. Just because what he does seems simplistic, that doesnt mean you will nail his style on the first attempt. Chances are, your first attempt will leave you wanting to do more paintings and to learn what it is you are lacking on your canvas.
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I respect and admire Bob Ross for his love of painting and for the fact that his show and efforts got allot of people interested in painting. But as an artist, his technique is very very limiting.

I painted in his wet on wet technique for ages with the expected results... Pretty yet mediocre work at best.

I finally resolved to look beyond him and my paintings literally changed from one painting to the next after spending 4 months of daily heavy research of many different techniques of painting, primarily landscapes.

It was like a whole world had opened up to me. I had known nothing but Ross until then. I had seen so many REALLY wonderful paintings, realistic paintings and thought I just didn't have the talent to create such works of art. But I found out, I just didn't know HOW to create such works of art. Learning technique is learning how to do something.

This website is a treasure trove of knowledge. Use it.
Hop on YouTube and look up terms you are interested in. I looked up "How to paint realistic landscapes in oil" and was flooded with hundreds of choices that literally changed my life.

Never limit yourself. Education is a key that opens many doorways.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

I find Bob Ross to be a great resource. I paint nothing like him but I still learn from when I watch some of his videos.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

When I first began oil painting I bought some of Bill Alexander supplies at Michaels Art Store. That was back when places such as Michaels still had people working for them who actually knew something about art.

I remember that when I asked one of the sales women for advice regarding the supplies, she told me that this Bill Alexander method was a good way to start, but that usually most artists will discover that they want to expand their capabilities after they complete about 6 to 8 paintings using this style.

She was absolutely correct. After creating about that number of paintings, I found myself wanting to create something that showed a better result. I can still remember the day and the subject at which time I switched over from that style, and moved on.

However, contrary to some of the opinions indicated on this thread, I believe that some of the techniques in terms of brush handling, especially regarding his criss-cross strokes in creating skies, are really quite sound in their operations.

The Bill Alexander method, or Bob Ross method, truly do represent a formulaic method of painting, and for that reason it tends to hold the artist captive to the brushes, knives, paint-loading, skip-trowleling, and other specific "moves" that are so characteristic to that method.

For example, once one learns that method of skip-trowling with which Bob creates a mountain, or the specific method of loading a brush with paint, and the proper way of tapping the brush on the canvas to create bushes and foliage, one quickly discovers that once learned, it can't possibly get any better. You can become an true expert at that method, and not be capable of creating anything much better than you second, or third painting was.

The paint-handling methods of Bill Alexander, or Bob Ross, do not carry over very well to those who may wish to paint animals, or human portraits, still lifes, etc. While that method is suited for painting landscapes, it is not very useful for other subject matter.

However, looking back, the Bill Alexander method actually did give me a degree of confidence in handling paint, especially in the painting, and blending of skies. There is a slight degree of "flamboyance" that is actually required in the painting of a sky, using a large brush, that I truly appreciate, and I got that from performing a few paintings in that style, before I strove for better work.

The Bob Ross method actually does teach a few things, but just don't get stuck in that method forever.
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Re: Newbie- bob Ross yeah or nay

I agree with the above. I started with the BR method and after a few years it got me wanting more. I think it's a great way to start and to see how ones passion progresses. Don't let the naysayers discourage anyone from starting with that or any method. Learn how to paint by those that produce the images you enjoy.
Sometimes I use the wet/wet method for producing the soft blended skies or water I like and that's all. I use whatever methods I want to produce the affect I'm going after.
Most people will never try and sell their work anyway so it doesn't matter what process is used only as long as the "artist" likes the results.

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