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I shall be busy later today I can tell.

Lorijo, Sorry for the confusion. It was a complete change around of instruction, one that has a different approach. I guess where this exercise with the perpindicular lines comes from is dealing with static compositions.

By perpindicular, I mean lines at right angle to each other, parallel to the vertical and horizontal axis.

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yoyita yoyita and rd2ruin (or greg) I'll get back to you later in the day, nice to have you on board. mjk
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Hi Greg
I'm attaching your composition, I've labelled two of the dots as an example.
- The placement of dots 'a' and 'b' both have a similarity in the distance between themselves and the axes line to the right of them. In this exercise we are trying to avoid similarity of positioning of individual markings to the axes.
- Aside from this a lot of the marks appear to be lying very close to the axis lines, which again we are trying to avoid.

Good try. Try some more exercises. Vary the placement of the dots to the axes lines. Try to avoid especially central placement on the page.

Greg it would be an idea not to include the axis lines as part of your composition. (As they are not supposed to be) As I mentioned earlier to lorijo, use some velum and place a piece of paper underneath with the lines. That way when you post we can see the beauty of your composition. mjk
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Yoyita, your images are beautiful, However there are too many for me to take in individually and look at and analyse.

I would like you to do three images, with just three dots only. (No lines). I can feel your energy and ability to soak in the information. With a 3 dot limit and no axes as I see you have understood, it will be easier to feel the composition.

When I have discussed them with you I will then suggest that you go to lines, and let you know what is required with them.

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Thank you for your patience Yoyita. I have re attched your last lot of pictures. Please excuse that fact that I have drawn the axis lines on top of your drawings. Their addition is just to put a point across. The compositions look so much better without them.

Of most importance in these exercise is that they are an exercise in spatial awareness. A creation of awareness of the entire picture area. They are not like a pattern. They are something to stimulate and create a discernment of the use of a picture plane.

With this simpler approach that we are examining now, my poor brain will not get overloaded.

I will point out with each of the three pictures a positioning problem. This new knowledge will hopefully help furture compositions.

Picture A
As you can see the dots on the left hand side of the middle vertical axis are both of almost identical distance from the axis.
This is something that in this compositional approach that is to be avoided.

Picture B
With the two dots on the lower left, their positioning places them at what seems to be identical distances from the lower left diagonal axis.

Picture C
It is hard to tell with this size however it appears that each of these dots are placed equidistant to the axis on either side of it.

As Lorijo said earlier these exercises are can be harder than they seem.

Okay Yoyita, keep those points in mind for future compositions. The next exercise takes almost an opposite approach. This exercise deals in static composition. It involves composition of perpindicular lines only (at this stage) By perpindicular I mean at right angles to each other.

Place three perpindicular lines in relationship to each other to produce the greatest variety of space around them. Vary the lines in tone, length, width and direction.

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Hi Yoyita,

I think that we are having a little misunderstanding regarding what perpindicular is so I have attached a diagram to show you.

Some lines need to be placed horizontal, some vertical. This creates a right angle (the lines are perpindicular in their spacing to each other.)

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I decided to add my attempt. I hope it prints. It has been interesting to see theother postings.

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A very interesting discussion to date, though I think I'll have to print it out and study it step by step to really understand it.

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I am going to try again for a posting .if this fails I will just go out and sit in the sun.
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