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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

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It only rates 1/3 stars on the St Petersburg Master Class colour chart though.
Actually, 8 years of my own intensive testing is enough for me to stop any worrying about this PY32 pigment..
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

BTW: Is the brand as highly pigmented as Williamsburg, Old Holland, etc.. the prices are pretty cheap so I suspect it's more like W&N, Rembrandt?
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BTW: Is the brand as highly pigmented as Williamsburg, Old Holland, etc.. the prices are pretty cheap so I suspect it's more like W&N, Rembrandt?
I think, that Master Class paints are highly optimized for comfortable use. 90% Russian artists are thinking, that Master Class is best. For me, such paint need to be diluted with some medium because they are much concentrated.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

Are they stiff like Old Holland as well then?
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Are they stiff like Old Holland as well then?
Master class pains aren't equal in stiffness. Sorry, I don't have any tube of Old Holland to compare with Master Class. But Master Class is always OK for me. (Phthalo I bought in student line Sonet)
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

I have not tried the Lanridge, but the Maimeri is pretty good quality in my opinion and offers some hard to find pigments. I have only tried the Master Class Strontium Yellow (only manufacturer as far as I know). I found the paint rather thin and weakly pigmented (at least that color). Master Class has solvent and resins (mastick and damar) in it as well. They do have unusual colors not offered by western paint manufacturers though.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

I like Langridge, but then again they are the cheapest proffesional quality paints where I live (Australia!). I like the descriptions on the back of the tubes (e.g. consistency, drying time, pigment loading).

I tried only one Meimeri Puro (transparentish earth colour), I enjoyed it.

Never tried the St Petersburg.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

Dragon: Langridge is the cheapest? Wow. So, is the high-priced spread better?

I cannot imagine higher pigmentation.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

I thought Langridge was expensive, but extreemly pigmented. Equivalent to top-range brands like Michael Holding, Old Holland, etc..
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

I have a tube of master class orange cadmium.
At 46ml, it weighs 88g after very little use... I'd estimate 43-44ml left.
My Grumbacher pretested 37ml is 84g full.

So slightly less dense than grumbacher, but not a night and day difference. Definitely more pigment than a student grade.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

Regarding the lightfastness of the Master Class Strontium Yellow PY32, I tested it for a year in a South facing window and it held up very well. The right side of the swatch was the exposed side, the left is the control swatch.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

Thank you Brian for that test swatch, it matches what I have read regarding itís usage in a number of fields. This seems to be like Prussian Blue, which has multiple variants in the pigment quality, and thus itís lightfastness rating can vary quite a bit. Many colors exhibit this effect, but some are just accepted in spite of deficiencies, like Cadmium Yellows which tend to darken slightly in some environments. Acceptable for some but not others seems a double standard far too frequently and so many pigments end up not seeing use just based on their limitations. Meanwhile we have tons of Alizarin Crimson genuine everywhere, even though it performs less well than many other pigments that are not sourced simply because of the same problems of longevity. Makes little sense really.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

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In the shop I buy my paints from it is the cheapest "profesional grade" paint. I will use titanium white (TW) and cadmium red (CR) for comparions, using only the artist grade paint found at the stores near me. The prices will be in australian dollars and rounded up.

Langridge: TW: $12, CR: $55
Art Spectrum: TW: $13, CR: $39
Gamblin: TW: $17, CR: $50
Michael Harding: TW: $20, CR: $87
Rembrandt: TW: $19, CR: $55
Winsor and Newton: TW: $18, CR: $58

From online, quick search from Australian retailers:
Old Holand: TW: $18, CR: $80
Maimeri Puro: TW: $26, CR: $68

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Remember I live in Australia so all the other top manufacturers need to be imported from overseas. In my opinion Langridge is equivalent to those brands you mentioned.

For me Langridge is the best value of professional grade paints (Micheal Harding, Old Holand, etc.). Furthermore it competes favourably with artist grade (Gamblin, Art Spectrum, W&N, ect.). The bigest disadvantage is a comparably lower amount of pigments available.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

Has anybody used Langridge Oil paints and what did you think of them.
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Re: St Petersburg Master Class Oils, Langridge, and Maimeri Puro

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Has anybody used Langridge Oil paints and what did you think of them.
I tried Langridge's Yellow Oxide, Red Oxide, Mars Orange and Carbon Black. I was disappointed by their viscous stickiness.......too much stabilizer.
I thought that they'd be creamier like Vasari.
Mars colors make a naturally somewhat fluid oil paint and I was surprised that Langridge had so altered their character as to make a tacky-pasty paint.

Edit: I think I was being too harsh. I bought them right after Jackson's had started carrying them....perhaps they were too fresh from the factory. Retrying them again after 4 months the mars colors have softened and become much creamier - rather like Blockx.
Perhaps because the mars pigments make a rather runny paint, you have to overstabilize at the beginning so the paint doesn't turn to syrup after a few months ageing. The Yellow Oxide is still a little too sticky though.

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