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Old 11-13-2019, 04:57 PM
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Re: On herding cats up a hill

Thank you for your kind words Christine, your experience sounds horrible, art school is brutal. I am on the opposite side of the experience where there is a kind and gifted teacher whose time and good will I donít want to lose. I feel like itís now or never. But. I fully admit that I am very green to this and probably overreacting. I will bow out of this thread before I make a bigger fool of myself. Thank you all again.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:59 PM
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To all of us. They were notorious. Also tenured.



I had to study again, by myself, after passing out as one of the best in my country, when I found out that what I had learnt wasn't completely useful. (well, as a consolation, others were worse, so I couldn't ask for help either.) [biology, not arts]
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...I also find that it is much more difficult to control watercolor.

In my experience, you can treat watercolor like any other media, with the exception that you need to learn to lift out mistakes for painting over again. Surely Oil is probably the most forgiving, but it can also be very difficult to achieve very subtle effects that are easily obtained in some other media (like watercolor). So, yes watercolor can be difficult to control, or it can be extremely easy by using much less water, not doing big washes, or trying to work on a wet surface when you want a hard edge. Reading and researching a lot before jumping in makes sense too, but people often skip right past that, making their learning curve more steep and difficult as well.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:51 PM
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I fell in love with watercolor before I realized what a difficult medium it is. As I have progressed as a watercolorist I have learned how to paint quickly to achieve the results and effects I want, when they can be achieved quickly. Some effects just need time. It requires practice. It also requires and understanding of how watercolor behaves, an understanding which comes only from practice and play.
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Re: On herding cats up a hill

[quote=dustlilac]I'm 24 years old by the way. I feel bad for old folks now, honestly.

the good thing about being old is that you have lived long,compared with being young and will only maybe live long
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Great comment Kaylen!! If we are hit by a bus tomorrow we have had a great life. If a 24 is they have missed a lot of living

This has been an interesting thread in that there are so many approaches to watercolor presented.
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I'm 24 years old by the way. I feel bad for old folks now, honestly.

the good thing about being old is that you have lived long,compared with being young and will only maybe live long

Indraneel can pretend that his remarks on memory loss and being too tired to do watercolor had nothing to do with assuming I was very old. But you, Kaylen, I have no idea what your problem with this post was. My lame attempt at humor? Then just say so, donít wish death on me.
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I was, I now realize, wrongly assuming that we'd all die some day, but I'm getting an inkling from the preceding thread that this is not necessarily the case at all. Could you let me in on the secret, if you do know it, thanks?



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In my experience, you can treat watercolor like any other media, with the exception that you need to learn to lift out mistakes for painting over again.
Dood, the paper gets tired.

Also, I don't like having any ghosts hanging around in the painting reminding me of my errors.
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Dust lilac said; "But you, Kaylen, I have no idea what your problem with this post was."
this is a community conversation not a problem

Its a shame Marialena was banned, she could explain things much clearer
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Yes. Bring Marialena back
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I third this. Never a dull moment when she was around. lol
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:33 AM
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Watercolors is in my opinion not about herding cats up a hill, that would be near impossible, cats do what they want, it is possible though to learn to think like a cat ,and to have a relationship with a cat , its pretty hard to force a cat to do anything,but cats are more trainable than many people think, you cant force a cat to love you, but they can be coxed, led or denied entry
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Dood, the paper gets tired.

Also, I don't like having any ghosts hanging around in the painting reminding me of my errors.

On my cheap paper yeah, for sure, to a point where it starts breaking down. With 100% cotton though, I haven't even had a time where my paper had issues, a little warping at the end but easily flattened through a couple methods. I can't even see my mistakes when I lift out, the resulting shadow is so light as to just meld into the existing painting.

Oh, I could see it being an issue if you did a tree out into a sky I guess, and needed to pull out the dark color of the limbs. Hmm... I haven't really encountered that problem much. Guess that is an example of a time where one may need to consider their stroke before they make it. Huge benefit for doing that in any media though.
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