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Old 12-16-2019, 02:40 PM
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Re: Koh-I-Noor soft or extra-soft pastels

Thank you Richard, very useful help. And the portraits I paint now are far more detailed than this old Mozart, in fact !
In conlusion, I have to TRY several pastels by myself in a shop to know which brand I prefer...
And I promise, I let down the Koh-i-noor ! :-D
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:05 AM
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Re: Koh-I-Noor soft or extra-soft pastels

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In my shop, according to their web site, the 1/2 rembrandt are about 27 euros the set of 30.

Are these pastels soft, medium, or hard ? I didn't find any details about them...

I hope someone who knows the "Koh-I-Noor" will answer my questions too...




Koh I noor pastels with SOFT in the box name are very very soft. The ones without soft ( sometimes branded Toison'dor, or somethign like that) are medium.
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Old 12-17-2019, 11:39 AM
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Re: Koh-I-Noor soft or extra-soft pastels

Your portraits are beautiful, Frédérique, so there is no need to "be indulgent." I have yet to even attempt a portrait with pastels. I would LOVE to do a portrait of my two granddaughters, but I procrastinate because I just don't have enough confidence yet. I do have some Stabilo Carbothelo pastel pencils, and I'm sure they would help with fine details in a portrait. But I've also see very loose, painterly portraits that I love. In any case, I wish you well with your return to the dry pastels!
I just noticed that you live in Auvergne. My wife is French, and my late father-in-law grew up in Lavoute-Chilhac. He was Auvergnat through-and-through. But he spent most of his adult live in Touraine, home to his wife and her family.
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Re: Koh-I-Noor soft or extra-soft pastels

I just recently purchased my first ever soft pastels.
I bought Koh-i-noor in a box of 12.
The guy at the art shop drew lines and smudged on a test paper using both Koh-i-noor and Rembrandt, they appeared very similar. I went with these as they are more affordable for me.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:56 AM
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I just recently purchased my first ever soft pastels.
I bought Koh-i-noor in a box of 12.
The guy at the art shop drew lines and smudged on a test paper using both Koh-i-noor and Rembrandt, they appeared very similar. I went with these as they are more affordable for me.






I, too, started with a small set that was affordable. Six months later, my collection of pastels has grown ... and continues to grow! I'm just warning you, Mario.... they are addictive! HAHA



I hope you will share some of your work with us in the pastel gallery!



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Re: Koh-I-Noor soft or extra-soft pastels

Frederique, this comparison of softness from Dakota Pastels might be handy for you in the future: https://www.dakotapastels.com/files/...tel-Lineup.pdf The Koh-i-noor of course fall into the "hard" category. Dakota hasn't updated this with the Richeson soft hand-rolled pastels, but those are generally considered to be on par with Unisons for softness/texture.

I bought some half stick sets to start, but am now building my collection by buying open stock pastels. I have a whole big "wish list" and based on what I'm working on, different colors bubble to the top when I'm making a purchase, but it's fun to grow the collection. I found the half stick sets to be a great way to start, but you're right that there were inevitably colors that I am hard-pressed to use up from some of the sets (I may have to do some monochrome self-challenges to use those sticks ;-)

I have to say that a very valuable thing for me starting out was to buy a sampler set where I got one pastel each of about a dozen different brands. You may be able to do the same kind of thing for yourself from open-stock and for some colors, buy the COLORS you want, but across a few brands until you zero in on the brand (or 2 or 3) that you want to collect. While I think it was nice of the guy in shop to show you the two pastels and smudge them out, what you SEE and what YOU FEEL yourself working with a particular brand may be two very different things (as any one brand will also feel different on various kinds of supports/paper).

I love your portrait! And have fun starting your collection - everyone is right about how addictive soft pastels are :-)
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