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Old 07-03-2019, 06:15 PM
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In the fields

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Title: In the fields
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Medium: Oil
Surface: Canvas
Dimension: 50 x 50cm
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!

MY COMMENTS:
This is a landscape based on reference photo but then transfomed during the painting process, to I guess, a more "inner landscape".

MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Interested to know what could be better.
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Old 07-04-2019, 03:17 PM
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Re: In the fields

I like this a lot..
I do notice a hard edge around the figure.
The lighter mid ground changes a bit abruptly to the darker fg colors, a curved line there in places..
Tree lines seem only roughed in, compared to the strong crispness of the fg.. just feels mismatched.
Just noticed 3 stacked curved lines in the clouds right of center.
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Old 07-04-2019, 03:48 PM
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Re: In the fields

The hardness of the figure bothers me, too. esp his back.
I don't mind the "roughness" of the trees, but do think one side or the other should have some difference in lighting--not all totally dark.
Is that a path of some kind--for some reason--from the sky down across the land to the right of figure and critter and out toward the viewer?
Intereting idea, and otherwise well executed imo.
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Old 07-04-2019, 03:51 PM
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Re: In the fields

I really like the figure and the foreground. I also like the mood expressed.

I agree that the change to background is too abrupt. However, that should be easy to fix.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:39 PM
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Re: In the fields

I'm going with Yes all around, 'cept the dog, something odd going on with the right white of him (certainly could be fine in real life tho - a detail pic would be great .
otherwise, Very nicely done - comp, colors, values, atmosphere, yum.

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Old 07-05-2019, 10:32 AM
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Re: In the fields

I like this idea of inner landscape very much even if not originally intended. You've done it well.

The only thing that stuck out to me is the abrupt transition from detailed fg to blurred bg starting right at his feet. A smoother transition would be nice UNLESS that's bc the "inner" part is just the part he's looking at.
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:32 AM
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Re: In the fields

"Interested to know what could be better."

As a self-taught artist myself ... I believe I see some of the challenges you are working with ...

1- you can paint
2- draftsmanship is really good
3- color sense is exceptional

so what is missing?

COMPOSITION - how to really make this painting interesting ...

Usually composition is the last thing a self-taught artist considers because the self taught artist wants to paint images... however ~

Placing your subject directly in the middle of your painting usually does not work.

Because once the viewer's eye goes directly to the center of the painting ...
the mystery is gone - poof!

So I am going to 'push the envelope' a bit and suggest the following treatments -



1- Turquoise (hat) is considered a 'money' color by artists in the know.
2- I've moved your subject to the lower left ... opening up your painting
for the viewer to ponder what your subject is pondering.
3- I've cropped the falling away terrain of the foreground so it does
not seem that your subject is standing on a hillock that is falling away -
in short I've removed a 'point of anxiety' from your image.
4- I've slightly changed the coloring of your person ... so that the viewer's
eye will jump back and forth between your subject and the landscape.
5- I've slightly dimmed the sky area over the tree line on the left -
leaving the white area slightly off-center.

By no means is this the only way to make this painting better.
It is just ... what I would do ... if this were my painting.

You have the bones of a good painting here - now let's make it exceptional!

Anyway ... this is just to give you some working ideas ...
based on some of the elements of composition ... to play with -

Interested in your thoughts regarding what I've suggested.

Best regards,

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Old 07-10-2019, 11:42 AM
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Re: In the fields

Ack!
i respectfully, but strongly disagree with that [normalizing] morph.


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Old 07-10-2019, 09:22 PM
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Re: In the fields

I too think the composition could be improved if the figure was not in the center of the picture. Love the color harmonies. Nice work!
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:16 PM
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Re: In the fields

"i respectfully, but strongly disagree with that [normalizing] morph."

Every day I learn something because of all the informative channels on WC. And I appreciate that.

However when people express themselves in 'insider-speak' - something gets Lost in Translation.

Hmmm... wondering if renting the movie might help.

Anyway, I've Googled it, Yahoo'd it and Internet Explore'd it ...

and I still can't find out what a 'normalizing morph' is.

Is it related to what the American Indian would call shape-shifting?

Or is it a distant cousin to a Blue Smurph?

Maybe it is a hybrid of a Norm McDonald and a lost minion from Despicable Me?

Which reminds me of a story ... 'what do you get when you cross a donkey with an onion?"

Gosh - I typed that before I realized I forgot the punch line.

Would someone help clarify 'normalizing morph' for me ...

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PS- If I've asked the question ... there are many who are asking themselves the same question; they just did not post.

You just never know ... the phrase might come in handy in the future.

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Old 07-10-2019, 10:37 PM
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Re: In the fields

haha, pic, i can't help but think you're being facetious, but i'll play for clarification of my blurt ... 'normalizing morph': to adjust toward the more normal, the rule of thirds specifically, in favor an often discouraged, even shunned, less normal, centered comp [which i like, not always, but especially so in this comp because it's framed so well in values, mystery, interest, story] ... ... the shift to the more normal comp, makes it too predictable and a little boring, comparably, imho of course.



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Old 07-10-2019, 11:33 PM
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Re: In the fields

" 'normalizing morph': to adjust toward the more normal..."

I knew it - I knew it... oh wait ... I've already admitted on this public forum ~
that I did not know it. That just torques my cookies!

Ok La, ... so you don't agree with me. I'm crushed.

I've reserved a corner ... and I'm going there and eat worms. NOT... without some salt, pepper and a little olive oil.

Actually ... the good news is ... should Bloc67 paint this image either way ... he can't lose.

La ... some will like your idea. And IMHO ... most will love my suggestion. So there!

I couldn't help it ... it was typed and sent before I realized what I'd written. Forgive me La?

Best regards,
Picassolite

PS- I'm the first one to admit ... there is no ONE way to paint an image.

And I do appreciate the lively back and forth.

I hope we have given Bloc67 a good chuckle and something to think about.

If you are reading this Bloc67 ... see what you've started?

Actually Bloc67 - it is only because your painting is so good ... that we have
something to wrestle with. Good for you.

Hmmm ... normalizing morph ... it does have a certain ring to it.

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Old 07-11-2019, 03:11 PM
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Re: In the fields

Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciated.

The abruptness og background/figure I fully agreed on and its becoming clear that the figure should be off-centre more than it is now. I guess I need to decide what I want to attenuate..but its not really the landscape thats my intended focus though. So need to think about this.

Thank you again for the feedback!
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:18 PM
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Re: In the fields

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… and its becoming clear that the figure should be off-centre more than it is now. I guess I need to decide what I want to attenuate..but its not really the landscape thats my intended focus though. So need to think about this.
Seems terrifying, for an "inner landscape" …

At first, I thought sharpen the tree edges? Then the more I looked at the details, I thought, no, because it all fades into proper distance. Because you intended this as an "inner landscape", it seems logical that the figure is at center.

" … its not really the landscape thats my intended focus … " What was your intended focus?
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