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March 23, 2017 at 1:52 pm #994963
I do almost all my drawing in sketch books – it works best for me right now. (Mainly because with kids and animals I need to be able to close things up and put them out of reach.)
I happen to be extremely sensitive to almost all scents and allergic to many. (yes – they are different reactions and I am aware of the difference – so is my allergist )
A friend recommends using hairspray – but I have never met one that I didn’t react to, including the unscented varieties.
Before I spend $$$ on fixative sprays at the store, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for brands/types to absolutely stay away from, or for ones that might actually be worth trying.
*****Bonus if you have an idea for something I can make at home which I can be sure doesn’t have scents in it.****
March 23, 2017 at 3:17 pm #1267596I would suggest getting something designed for preserving artwork. I use Krylon Fixative but I spray it outdoors and let it dry there as well. By the time I bring the art inside I don’t smell anything … but then I’m not allergic. I don’t think you can find out if you are sensitive without trying things so perhaps give it a try but do it outdoors.
March 23, 2017 at 3:26 pm #1267607I would suggest getting something designed for preserving artwork. I use Krylon Fixative but I spray it outdoors and let it dry there as well. By the time I bring the art inside I don’t smell anything … but then I’m not allergic. I don’t think you can find out if you are sensitive without trying things so perhaps give it a try but do it outdoors.
I agree I love this brand and being very sensitive myself this is my go to spray for all things fixative and varnish alike….sprayed outside of course.
Hairspray will have more of a scent and it’s not designed for graphite and other artistic mediums. I tried it in college as a cheap alternative and I was never happy with the results and my drawing had this tackiness to it that I could never shake and I never made that mistake again.
March 23, 2017 at 7:05 pm #1267599This is the only brand I tolerate. It’s based on the formulas the masters used for fixing drawings and pastels (just casein and grain alcohol). You can find the recipe for making it yourself online which is a bit cheaper.
http://www.spectrafix.comThe pump sprayer that comes with it is not good…it can leave large drops. So I bought one called Flairosol and it’s perfect with a very fine mist. You do need to spray with the book or sheet upright to get the best coverage. You can get it from Amazon or other stores online.
http://flairosol.comBlair makes a “very low odor spray fix” but it still bothers me. The problem with hairspray is it is not archival and often will cause yellowing.
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March 23, 2017 at 8:00 pm #1267608Thanks everyone. I appreciate the help and I will see what they sell at the stores around me.
March 24, 2017 at 5:14 am #1267598I do almost all my drawing in sketch books – it works best for me right now. (Mainly because with kids and animals I need to be able to close things up and put them out of reach.)
I happen to be extremely sensitive to almost all scents and allergic to many. (yes – they are different reactions and I am aware of the difference – so is my allergist )
A friend recommends using hairspray – but I have never met one that I didn’t react to, including the unscented varieties.
Before I spend $$$ on fixative sprays at the store, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for brands/types to absolutely stay away from, or for ones that might actually be worth trying.
*****Bonus if you have an idea for something I can make at home which I can be sure doesn’t have scents in it.****
What you draw with? Charcoal or graphite or something else?
I find that fixative is overvalued. If you are not using charcoal neither pastel , fixative is something not really essential.
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March 24, 2017 at 6:13 am #1267606What about in investing in a mask? I use one when I spray anything, icluding varnish or fixatives…
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March 24, 2017 at 8:49 am #1267603I have a mask. I still spray in the garage with both doors open and at least one big fan between the spray area and the door. Then I leave the article out there or on the porch until the stink goes away.
You don’t want to take any chances. Repeated exposure to an allergen can, in some cases, increase sensitivity. In the luthiers’ forum where I used to hang out, several guitar builders told real horror stories about becoming suddenly and severely allergic to the oils in the exotic woods they were using.
A painting is never really done as long as I can get my hands on it.
March 24, 2017 at 12:16 pm #1267609I draw with graphite. The problem is that I draw in books (which is important because I’m already drowning in paper from watercolours) and then my drawings get smudged.
Masks would help while spraying, but my concern is that my book would then smell of the scent for eternity.
March 24, 2017 at 2:00 pm #1267604Eventually the outgassing stops. But you would want to leave the book open until the sprayed pages don’t smell any more.
Would it be possible to insert interleaves in your books?
Maybe you could transfer the drawings to scrapbooks …
A painting is never really done as long as I can get my hands on it.
March 24, 2017 at 2:00 pm #1267600Krylon has Acrylic in it, so under no circumstances should anyone breath the vapors, get a mask, spray outside, and leave the art work to dry until it no longer smells, the book won’t smell as long as you leave the book open long enough for the page to dry after spraying. A couple of light coatings are better than one heavy application. Good luck.
A hooded spray booth would be the best place to spray, but most of us don’t have access to such a complicated piece of equipment, well I suppose it isn’t so complicated, but it would take up space most of us don’t have to spare, so outside is the best alternative.
March 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm #1267605Krylon has Acrylic in it,
No. The rest of the post is spot on, but inaccurate stuff like this doesn’t help.
Here’s a link to the safety data sheet for Krylon Crystal Clear, in case anyone wants to know what’s really in it.https://www.krylon.com/document/SDS/en/US/724504113034
This one is for Krylon Workable Fixatif.
http://www.onboces.org/safety/msds/K/Krylon%20Workable%20Fixatif%201306.pdfA painting is never really done as long as I can get my hands on it.
March 24, 2017 at 2:17 pm #1267597If you insert leaves, perhaps consider polyethylene. It’s smooth so it’s not likely to smudge anything and it’s archival. Using something like tissue paper might be prone to smudging as it’s not completely smooth.
March 25, 2017 at 10:34 am #1267601Some fixative sprays have acrylic in them, as the spray I use lists it as an ingredient on the can, I should have checked on Krylon, still the vapor isn’t something you want to breath.
March 25, 2017 at 2:44 pm #1267610I love the suggestions I’m getting.
I do want to clarify, it’s not the vapours from spraying that concern me. I would absolutely spray in a well ventilated area.
It’s residual scent from any perfumes that might be added to make it “smell nice”.
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