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Old 05-21-2018, 11:03 AM
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Re: Umber layer , dead layer and glazing of a glass pumpkin

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I also like the painting and have troubles with glazing consistencies myself.Since there is a lot of discussion about glazing and the benefit of grisailles, I figured I ask that here. Do you share an opinion as to the perfect consistency of a glaze? Could somebody relate that to pure linseed oil ,which is rather "thin".
I think I made my glazes too thin to ensure they are transparent. However, I cannot handle the paint satisfactorily if I do. It should be considerably thicker than linseed oil?
Glazing is not dilutuing the paint until you can see through it. It's bad for the paint film. And adding to much oil will cause yellowing. Infact doing so with opaque paint will only cause a loss of saturation and you will get a foggy look.

A glaze is painting with transparent paint. Period. If you are painting with opaque paint so that you can't see the underpainting. You're not glazing.
Adding medium will help you spread it around thinly enough that you can see the under painting. But don't add to much.
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Re: Umber layer , dead layer and glazing of a glass pumpkin

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Glazing is not dilutuing the paint until you can see through it. It's bad for the paint film. And adding to much oil will cause yellowing. Infact doing so with opaque paint will only cause a loss of saturation and you will get a foggy look.

A glaze is painting with transparent paint. Period. If you are painting with opaque paint so that you can't see the underpainting. You're not glazing.
Adding medium will help you spread it around thinly enough that you can see the under painting. But don't add to much.
Not diluting paint but at the same time transparent? How do you achieve that? Linseed oil is sufficient? I just remain semi-opaque and get this scumbling-look
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Re: Umber layer , dead layer and glazing of a glass pumpkin

Pigments themselves are transparent. Some are opaque. Most every paint tube is marked with the amount of transparency. Different manufactures use different markings.

I think the primary transparent paints are pthalo blue, quinacridone magenta, and hansa yellow.

Careful though.. you may turn into an actual printer if you use them
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Re: Umber layer , dead layer and glazing of a glass pumpkin

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Pigments themselves are transparent. Some are opaque. Most every paint tube is marked with the amount of transparency. Different manufactures use different markings.

I think the primary transparent paints are pthalo blue, quinacridone magenta, and hansa yellow.

Careful though.. you may turn into an actual printer if you use them
yes i know. But should the consistency be more like ink or more oily ,thickr than pure linseed oil?Maybe there are different views.
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Re: Umber layer , dead layer and glazing of a glass pumpkin

The consistency is a matter of personal preference. The key point to focus on is that the transparent paint is applied thinly enough that you can see the underpainting. Just focus on that and then find a means to the end.. i.e. consistnecy. You can apply a perfect glaze with just straight paint from the tube smudged with your finger. Once you understand that.. you can add medium to make the smudging easier.

Personally I premix all paint to the same consistency glazing or not. I mix medium into the paint until it just starts to sluff off of a paint knife. Not runny, not stiff. I like the ease of not having to mix medium all the time and I think it's better for the paint film not having random dips of brush medium here and there and who knows what..

Also I do 1 stand, 1 walnut, 1 oms. This again is a personal preference I have tailored to my specific needs for the way I paint for the level of detail I try to employ. Coupled with the way I like the final paint film to look.
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WOW! Very nice.

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