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    Constance
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        A figure from Croquis cafe – no. 302, untimed off course. I really like this pose, and wanted to try sketching with pencil instead of charcoal….inspired by an amazing figure artist’s works…I feel i need to draw and observe more of hands and feet…

        And, a self portrait (profile) in pencil….

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        #551902

        oh wow!!! Visited your site Constance, your work is amazing :)

        Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art - Leonardo da Vinci
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        #551895

        Really well done, Constance- I am a fan!

        bethany
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        #551891
        ArtistOz
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            Good work as usual Constance. That figure pose is unusual and challenging the flexibility of the human body makes it the pre-eminent subject for artists. Learn everything you can about edges it will make a big difference to your figure drawing.

            Bill,
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            #551897
            Constance
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                Thanks David :) I’m still learning…still a loooooong way from where I’d like to be.

                Thank you so much Bethany! No, I am YOUR fan!

                Thanks so much for the encouragement Bill :) Edges in paintings…I understand, but may I know more of edges in line drawings? Is it ‘softening’ of edges? Im not confident with lines…

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                #551892
                ArtistOz
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                    It is easier to explain in pictures I hope you don’t mind me posting a couple?

                    In my art group we were discussing lines but you can’t talk about lines without discussing edges and it was easier to do a demo with glass than talking about line and edges. I’ll post it below.

                    The support we draw or paint on is a flat plane and if you have a single weight line drawing it reminds us of that flat plane if you want to turn that plane into a window you have to put in some visual cues. Its all trickery that works we see the flat plane as a window into a 3D world, edges play a role in that illusion along with perspective, overlapping shapes and size variations.

                    Edges are where two things or planes meet.
                    Edges can be:
                    Soft
                    Hard
                    Fuzzy
                    Lost
                    and with Line
                    thick
                    thin
                    It depends on the light.

                    Here you can see how single weight outline kills any sense of depth. By varying the line and thinking about edges the figure moves from a flat shape into 3D form.

                    You can see the powerful effect of changing the edges in the glass and bottle below. Have a good look at the glass below and analyse the ingredients, abstract light and dark lines/shapes that individually mean nothing but together create a convincing illusion. Hope that clarifies edges in drawing for you.

                    Bill,
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                    I’m not sure I understand what you are saying Bill. Are you saying we should create the outline edge first or do you just mean the weight of the line? I’ve read about that but once you start work on the modelling of the figure surely that will come through. I love the freedom in the first drawing, it screams movement.

                    Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art - Leonardo da Vinci
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                    #551893
                    ArtistOz
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                        Ignore the single line outlines they are only there to demonstrate how they destroy form and the illusion of depth. The bottle is there to show how powerful understanding edges can be, figures, because of their complexity are harder to understand. I found showing people how to draw glass bottles etc easier to show what edges do because they think its something quite difficult and are surprised how easy it really is once they understand the how.

                        If Constance was to redraw the Croquis Cafe figure again being aware of the edges this time she will notice the improvement that knowing about edges can bring to a drawing.

                        Bill,
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                        #551898
                        Constance
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                            I appreciate the explanations Bill, thank you so much! As I’m a visual learner, the image examples/comparisons really helped. I understand….I think i will try the same pose again with what you’ve shared in mind…

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                            #551896
                            123harry
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                                I like both sketches. The way you are going after the form in the first (especially in the feet) and the portrait is beautifully sensitive.

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                                #551894
                                OK
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                                    Great explanation of the use of edges in drawing from Bill this is the sort of reply that can make the Figure Forum worth while again rather than the usual platitudes we have been getting for so long.

                                    Don’t suppose you would consider doing a short series of this sort of thing Bill?

                                    :wave: Dave.

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                                    #551901
                                    earlselwyn
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                                        Yes! Bill should do a series! Come on Bill!

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                                        #551899
                                        Constance
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                                            Thank you so much Harry :)

                                            Dave and Earl, i agree with both of you :thumbsup:

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                                            #551900
                                            IndianaKate
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                                                Bill’s work is excellent, and I too would like a series.

                                                Constance, you have multiple kinds of lines in your portrait. The proportions in the figure are good and it’s expressive. It’s a great sketch. I always hesitate to mess with a great sketch, but sometimes the result is powerful. Sometimes I copy a great sketch like yours and mess with different ways to take the next step. That way I don’t loose the great sketch I love.

                                                Kate

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