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Old 05-31-2017, 12:43 PM
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I just finished--I think--a painting, I worked hard to make it a "copy" of a master painting, but I'm simply not that good. Also size and proportions are different: his is measured in feet, mine inches, and I'm not a mathematician, but I think to be proportional, mine would need to be at least a few inches longer. I'd say the coloring is off, but I don't know: the picture I started with, from a magazine, is more browns, one in another place is more grays. I don't know which, if either is correct. The artist died in early 1900's. The painting was done in 1876. I think seeing them --photos of the original, and of mine, mine would somewhat easily seen to be modeled, or an attempt at a copy, of the photo of the original.
Is there a copyright issue here? Can I sell it? Can I do others, and put them up for sale/sell them? Do I need to attribute the original artist, and how?
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Old 05-31-2017, 03:44 PM
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Re: master copy (?)

No copyright issue at all. Any art created in the 1800's would be in the public domain now. For ethical reasons though I'd make sure I indicate that the painting is done after XXX (where XXX is the original artist's name.).
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:15 PM
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Re: master copy (?)

A follow up question..
If an image is in a magazine, does the magazine have a copyright over the image even though the artist has passed.. Most magazines do have copyright in general..
and - If that same image is also available in online searches in many places.. less of an issue to worry about?
Perhaps don’t say you got it from a copyrighted? magazine if is it old enough and found on the internet also?
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:29 PM
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Re: master copy (?)

I'm no lawyer so I'm not sure if the magazine can copyright their photo of a piece of art that's in the public domain, (I think not) but how would a magazine know you used their photo of a masterwork to make your copy anyway? I personally wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 05-31-2017, 05:38 PM
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Re: master copy (?)

The picture I started with is from a book I've had since early 80's. I've kept it because I don't throw stuff away, and I like this picture. It has been in storage most of this time. I happened to think of it recently when thinking of another project and wanted some idea about how about how to do it. I did learn.
To answer your questions, I learned the book is a museum art department book, (C)1980, and the painting is apparently owned by that museum. The book itself seems to be a biography containing a few other both black and white and color photos of other paintings, owned also by other entities (not the museum.)

Typing the artist's name into google brings up ___paintings.com, complete works at .org, and a few others others. I really like his work--I have only recently seen more of it--in the last weeks as I worked on this one. I can learn a lot from them, and would like to do more. If I can safely offer them for sale, I'd like to.
I used a googled image to help understand parts of the book photo. Actually, because of the net, I was able to do more.

So,what do you think? Is there a copyright issue?

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Old 05-31-2017, 05:58 PM
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So,what do you think? Is there a copyright issue?

In my opinion, no.
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Old 05-31-2017, 06:02 PM
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Re: master copy (?)

Why not share the name of the painting & the artist?
You'll have to put the original artist's name on your painting anyway to clarify that it is copy/study /inspired by etc...
Usually one of these is written on the back of a copy..
In the style of XXX
Inspired by XXX
After XXX
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