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Old 11-26-2019, 10:33 AM
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Color Me Magenta!

Seems T-Mobile (Deutsche Telekom, the parent company of T-Mobile) has trademarked the color magenta. Not the word, the color. And they enforce it. Seriously. 😱😱😱

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/25/78272...ds-off-magenta

I checked on TESS at USPTO website and it's true. Deutsche Telekom has a number of trademarks that cover just about every conceivable product.
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Old 11-26-2019, 04:47 PM
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Re: Color Me Magenta!

Just because you trademark something doesn't mean you own it. Your trademark can be challenged. I just saw a trademark on "Fire Cider" get knocked down by herbalists.

OTOH, Scotts', the garden supply company, trademarked their color of green and no other garden supply company can use it on their labels. Creepy.

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Old 12-09-2019, 09:03 AM
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Just because you trademark something doesn't mean you own it. Your trademark can be challenged. I just saw a trademark on "Fire Cider" get knocked down by herbalists.

OTOH, Scotts', the garden supply company, trademarked their color of green and no other garden supply company can use it on their labels. Creepy.

Just now saw this, so sorry for the late reply.

Yup, trademarks, like copyrights, can be successfully challenged. To me it makes sense that Scott's mark(color) cannot be used on other garden supplies, but that color can be used on other types of products without infringing.

T-Mobile, however, has filed the mark for almost any product imaginable, and wins all enforcement efforts. To me that is just nothing more than greed. An action that is legally right is not necessarily morally right. ☹
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:53 AM
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Re: Color Me Magenta!

McDonald's tried to trademark the words "happy" and "smile".

I think you can try to trademark just about anything. Defending it depends on the judge if the case gets that far or on who can afford to pay better lawyers longer.

T-Mobile has deep pockets.
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Ridiculous, seriously the world has much bigger problems
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Ridiculous, seriously the world has much bigger problems

What is ridiculous? And what makes it ridiculous?
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The fact that they can even copyright a colour. Like Anish Kapoor and his blacker than black.
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:03 AM
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The fact that they can even copyright a colour. Like Anish Kapoor and his blacker than black.

I think it's much worse than ridiculous, and in this case for digital/print artists who use the color in their works. I did not do an exhaustive search of the T-Mobile's magenta mark, but I think I recall seeing "prints" and "posters" in there. The ramifications are horrendous.

TM's usually are filed and granted for a narrow band of products associated with the filing company such as in the Scotts fertilizer products example already given. Scotts did not try to grab the mark for all possible products, and having such a trademark makes sense to me. It's the company brand for their product - the reason for trademarks.

But, to grab something as generic as a color applied to products not associated with the brand is, as you you say, beyond ridiculous.
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Couldn't agree more.
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Re: Color Me Magenta!

I'll betcha the next slew of paintings by rebel artists are going to represent magenta. I'm going to grab some popcorn for this one.
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Re: Color Me Magenta!

I really don't understand how they could be allowed to trademark a colour, it is ridiculous. As the guy says in the article, it's the colour of one of the cartridges in most printers.
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That's like claiming that humans have the right to copyright TM life.🙄
All right if you create a type of magenta then that's acceptable but you can't claim you created thee magenta.
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