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    davey72
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        Hi everyone!

        I’m new to art and have a question. I’m trying to create some Jackson Pollock style paintings but can’t get the paint to the right consistency. I’ve tried mixing the acrylic paint with water and also flow aid but it still doesn’t have a nice flow. When I try to drizzle it on the canvas it just plops off in droplets rather than creating smooth lines. Do I need to use a different kind of paint or is there a way to get the right consistency with acrylic. Thanks for all your help!

        #1130475
        DaveMak
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            Don’t know if this will help with your Pollock technique, but when you thin acrylics you should use a thinner consisting of 50% water (preferably distilled) and 50% acrylic medium.

            Using just water will tend to cause the paint to separate as there is not enough binder to hold the polymer together.

            #1130470
            Brian Firth
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                You need to experiment with Golden’s Clear Tar Gel or Liquitex’s Pouring Medium. These two mediums work the best to for pouring and dripping acrylics.

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                Brian Firth

                #1130474
                Theo Art
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                    You may want to try inexpensive acrylic that is used for crafts.
                    The consistency is liquid compared to artist acrylic that are more of a gel or paste. Here is a link to one brand there are many other brands to choice from.
                    http://www.decoart.com/cgi-bin/Products.cgi?Americana_Acrylics

                    www.originalabstractart.net

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                    #1130473
                    seventex
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                        Just an interesting FYI, since you mention Jackson Pollock, Golden created the paints used in the 2002 movie starring Ed Harris. Ed Harris, while a tremendous actor who throws himself completely into the roles he plays, did not want to work with toxic chemicals for the filming.
                        Pollock actually used oil based paints, and even house paints, for his paintings. You can research this on the web, and I don’t think I am impuning oils when I say that Pollock’s works are creating some significant challenges for conservators. He painted on untreated canvas… some of the metallic paints he’s using have oxidized.
                        Anyhow, you should start with FLUID acrylics, not watered down heavy body acrylics… and if you want to increase the rheology (stringiness… if that’s a word) of the paint you can try a medium like Clear Tar Gel, or a pouring medium. Even if you get the paint to be more pourable with water, I don’t think you’ll be happy with how it dries — when the high volume of water evaporates the integrity of the paint film will be compromised.
                        If you really want intense color, start with straight fluid acrylics and experiment adding mediums until you find the combination that works best.
                        You should also consider the potential for crazing if you have pools of paint drying, GAC800 is designed to reduce crazing and preserves the surface quality of the pour as it dries. I’d definitely experiment with that as you work through your painting.
                        Given the relatively high cost of fluid acrylics (quality fluid colors, not student grade paint) you might even start by finding a medium that pours the way you like and then add the colors you want to it. Quality fluid acrylics have a very high pigment load, you’ll be surprised how little it takes to create a very intense color. Plus, it’s really cool to explore the transparency and opacity as you pour and drizzle paint.
                        Please post up some images as you develop your process.
                        I hope I’ve helped.

                        #1130472
                        Bill_E
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                            Seventex – interesting information.

                            Davey72 – I have not tried it, but I wonder if an airbrushing medium used with fluid acrylics would do what you wanted.

                            Bill
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                            Orca
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                                One thing to consider is amount of texture that you’ll want on your finished work. (I’m strictly a novice painter, btw, so I’m sharing what is still a learning process for me!)

                                I do a lot of my paintings with squeeze bottles, and at first I just diluted the paint with water. Bad idea. The lines would spread out and lose their definition.

                                A lot of people have mentioned Clear Tar Gel, and I agree. I use the tar gel, paint, and a small amount of water. This way the lines keep some texture, and are much easier to control. One thing that I’m going to start doing immediately is to keep notes….to create formulas that I can return to. I’ve been winging it, and have therefore had a hard time duplicating successful ratios of paint to medium.

                                Hope that helps. I’ve also bought a LOT of books on acrylics and the various mediums. I’ve found them to be wildly helpful.

                                Sherry Bellamy

                                #1130471
                                TEF
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                                    Hi everyone!

                                    I’m new to art and have a question. I’m trying to create some Jackson Pollock style paintings but can’t get the paint to the right consistency. I’ve tried mixing the acrylic paint with water and also flow aid but it still doesn’t have a nice flow. When I try to drizzle it on the canvas it just plops off in droplets rather than creating smooth lines. Do I need to use a different kind of paint or is there a way to get the right consistency with acrylic. Thanks for all your help!

                                    If you’re new to painting, use craft paint. Don’t waste money on expensive acrylics, mediums, tar gels, etc.

                                    #1130476
                                    DaveMak
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                                        If you’re new to painting, use craft paint. Don’t waste money on expensive acrylics, mediums, tar gels, etc.

                                        Especially if you don’t care how long your art survives.

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                                        If you’re new to painting, use craft paint.

                                        Other than the fact that I don’t think they’ll pour quite as hoped, how would this help with the problem already mentioned above:

                                        Even if you get the paint to be more pourable with water, I don’t think you’ll be happy with how it dries — when the high volume of water evaporates the integrity of the paint film will be compromised.

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