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I do use turps now and then, but mostly I use tortilions and fingers for large areas.
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you can use various things for blending not only turpentine. I used mineral oil for that purple painting

Yeah, I've heard there are some other things as well like white-spirit and even baby oil... but they say oils yellow, baby oil, linseed oil does, perhaps mineral oil does too.

btw, how did you manage to creative convincing dark areas in your purple painting? I have finished mine today, and everything below the sky sucks!! Could you please tell me what colors you used for the rails of the bridge?
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I do use turps now and then, but mostly I use tortilions and fingers for large areas.

Oh! I see. Maybe I read that in some old threads

Btw, I have finally finished my work for this challenge. The beginning was promising cause they sky turned out nice, but the rest is screwed up. The dark areas are harder to handle than I thought! I also went for the wrong hues.
Sorry for the picture quality, the right part is darker than it really is because of my small desk lamp. Too bad we only have 6 hours of daylight in my city in December

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Oh, Mira! Don't be so critical of yourself. There's a lot to like here in this painting. Your sky is terrific, for starters. How did you apply your stars? Did you dot them in with the OP stick, or use tortillons? The effect is lovely.

I also really like your horizon line, as well as the trees. The leading lines of the bridge look great, too.

Keep up the good work!
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Great going, Mira! The sky is beautiful. Night landscapes aren't easy and you did well.
Some time ago I had a tip on one of my paintings - a downward slope of the land leads the eye out of the painting. To stop the eye from exiting isn't always easy but it does bring a new challenge to composing.
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A4 My daughter says it looks spooky
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Yeah, I've heard there are some other things as well like white-spirit and even baby oil... but they say oils yellow, baby oil, linseed oil does, perhaps mineral oil does too.
linseed oil yellows for sure, I wouldn't use baby oil except for ops like Pentel or other kids' pastels. I don't know if mineral oil yellows though I've never heard of it. maybe it doesn't

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btw, how did you manage to creative convincing dark areas in your purple painting?
I did everything black except white area in the sky and the bridge, blended it with oil and went from dark to light

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I have finished mine today, and everything below the sky sucks!!
I'm over-critical of my works too lol You are doing fine but what I've noticed you should work more in layers for instance the bridge looks like you painted the rails first and grass background at the bottom later. Go from background to foreground instead.

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Could you please tell me what colors you used for the rails of the bridge?
burnt umber, raw umber, light yellow, white, grey, violet, rose pink
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now, that's what I call tonalism minimal number of colours with different tones

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you did good work then because it should
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Oh, Mira! Don't be so critical of yourself. There's a lot to like here in this painting. Your sky is terrific, for starters. How did you apply your stars? Did you dot them in with the OP stick, or use tortillons? The effect is lovely.

I also really like your horizon line, as well as the trees. The leading lines of the bridge look great, too.

Keep up the good work!

Thank you very much for the support, Terri!
I love starry skies so I did my best to make this sky beautiful
I tried applying the stars with the stick, but the spots were too big, so I took a toothpick and applied the white Senn on it, then pressed against the paper with light and very light pressure. It took a while, but the stars are the right size this way though the top of the Sennelier stick did suffer
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Great going, Mira! The sky is beautiful. Night landscapes aren't easy and you did well.
Some time ago I had a tip on one of my paintings - a downward slope of the land leads the eye out of the painting. To stop the eye from exiting isn't always easy but it does bring a new challenge to composing.

Thank you Christel! Yeah, this is my first night landscape and now I know why they are tough
Thanks for the tip too! I will keep that in mind

Your new painting does look spooky but the reference photo did too!
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I did everything black except white area in the sky and the bridge, blended it with oil and went from dark to light

Thank you for explaining it to me! I wouldn't guess to go from dark to light - I did so on one of the slopes but didn't think it would give such a great effect on the bridge too! I love how smooth and muted your values are, all the colors are in harmony in your work!

By the way, what OPs do you use? 

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I'm over-critical of my works too lol You are doing fine but what I've noticed you should work more in layers for instance the bridge looks like you painted the rails first and grass background at the bottom later. Go from background to foreground instead.

Thank you for the tips! Actually you are right, I did the rails first... next time I will know better!
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Thanks M2G and Mira!
Wrt the use of oil as blending medium, I tried out the baby oil which is a mineral oil, and it took months to dry out. Of course I took too much, but I also worked on canvas.
The linseed may turn yellow, but I leave my paintings, usually oils, in the SA sun and that takes away the yellow. The time needed to bleach the yellow depends on the amount of yellowing and how hot it is during the day.
Mira - in case you find you've started with the wrong color, you can scrape back or seal the layer and add more op's.
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Mira: You can also try one of the blending sticks that come with some sets of OP's. I have blending OP sticks from Senns, and Cray-Pas Specialist, I believe...these colorless sticks add some oil/wax to help facilitate blending and mixing without changing colors. I've only used the one from Senns, and a little goes a long way. But if you're hesitant to use blending oils or turpentine, it's another option.
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Oh! I almost missed this. It's very lovely and haunting, Christel, even mysterious. I understand why your daughter says spooky. Great softness in the light as well as the trees.

Edited to add: I also think you've made the image stronger by making it vertical.
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