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Old 07-22-2017, 11:02 AM
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If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

Hi there-

I have a full set of Coloursoft as well as a full set of Irojitens. I work mostly on darker colored paper (kraft, earth tones, and black). A few people have told me Prismas, despite their breakage issues, offer great coverage on darker papers and tons of unusual colors not found in any other pencil sets so I should add a full set to my supplies.

I guess I'm wondering if adding a full set of Prismacolors to my supplies will be of a great benefit to me both in color selection and performance.
- Are there enough pencils in their 150 set that are unique from the Coloursoft and do they perform well on darker papers that it's worth the investment?
- Are there some colors in the Prisma range that are similar but perform better on darker papers?

Do any of you have both sets and find them both useful?

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:32 AM
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

Sure I have full sets of all the big names, most all many decades old, the more the merrier!

On some of the sets I do not use all the colors enough to have ever replaced a particular color. However those are very few.

I have several thousand of the older Prismacolors, however several months ago I bought a new set of Prismacolors (strictly because the price was only $80 for 150). I like them all on the same papers you mentioned.

As far as breakage issues, I've not experienced any of that in this new set (like many, I had steered clear of Prismas for many years because of the breakage and off-center cores). But, I only sharpen them by hand with a blade so that also helps keep from breaking.

Out of this new set I bought, only one pencil has given me an issue. However, before I purchased that set at my favorite art store, they graciously allowed me to inspect every single pencil in the box (I love those people!). They themselves had previously quit selling them for several years because the quality had gone so far downhill.

I have full sets of older Derwents and new Coloursofts and I like them alot. Irojitans I don't care for as much.
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Old 07-22-2017, 03:36 PM
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

I have been using mainly Prismacolor since I started, but at this point I never buy sets, just the colours I need. With Prismas in open stock I make sure that the #end of each pencil has the lead well centred. I only had one pencil that went ALL in the sharpening, and I have yet to try the microwave solution I heard at WC: 3 seconds might fuse the lead inside. I am more concerned with the pigment in the Mexican pencils many of our members reported as being weaker than the ones made in the USA pencils were...

Slowly I have also been getting Coloursoft in open stock to eventually replace the Prismas. They are as soft or softer than Prismas. The only one CS I used so far was the white to make bloom on dark violet PC berries. It worked very well.

Have you checked stores for open stock? With sets you always end up with colours you don't ever use again!
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

I bought the Prisma 150 set when it went on sale at Amazon and have been very happy with them. I'm glad I got the full set as there are a lot of unique colors (to my admittedly inexperienced eye).

I do have a few Coloursofts but, while they seem like nice pencils, I can't fit them in my pencil sharpener! Whose idea was that??? I hate using a hand-held sharpener - the point is never as good as the electric. It's a shame because I like their selection of pinks - the blush pink is gorgeous and much nicer than the Prisma, IMHO.

I'm sure this doesn't help in the slightest, LOL, but there's my $0.02!
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

Sharie, they do not even fit in a pencil sharpener that came in a small set of Coloursoft pencils. That's a laugh...
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:23 AM
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

LOL, Minerva, that's hilarious!
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

A set of any pencils is expensive. I own Prismacolors, Pablos and Luminance all waxed based pencils.. full sets. I dont have any polychromos but I have been considering buying some.. My recommendation to you is to buy a few of each brand you might want to consider a red, blue and yellow and do a little project like cherries on the same paper. Get a feel for them before you invest. I have an Icarus board which waxed based pencils work on. I also say try a few brands because I started with prismacolor and I know the colors and how they apply that is why I keep going back to them. Prismacolors work well with polychromos.
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:45 PM
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

Thank you all for your advice- I splurged on a full set of Prismacolors and was pleasantly surprised- I wanted them for the range of colors and opacity, and knew there might be a lot of quality control issues. What I got was a set of lovely, creamy pencils that seem to hold up even when I get heavy handed (which is a lot since I have fine motor control issues.)

Now I'm deciding whether to get a set of Pablos or Luminance I definitely have the colored pencil bug! Something about the feel of the tip of the pencil moving across the paper makes me feel very happy. definitely worth the investment for a little more happiness, I think... Thanks again for all your encouragement and advice!
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

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Hi there-

I have a full set of Coloursoft as well as a full set of Irojitens. I work mostly on darker colored paper (kraft, earth tones, and black). A few people have told me Prismas, despite their breakage issues, offer great coverage on darker papers and tons of unusual colors not found in any other pencil sets so I should add a full set to my supplies.

I guess I'm wondering if adding a full set of Prismacolors to my supplies will be of a great benefit to me both in color selection and performance.
- Are there enough pencils in their 150 set that are unique from the Coloursoft and do they perform well on darker papers that it's worth the investment?
- Are there some colors in the Prisma range that are similar but perform better on darker papers?

Do any of you have both sets and find them both useful?

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this.
Just keep in mind if your intention is to make finished art pieces (and not only material to be scanned) that those "unique" colors that prismacolor offers are usually HORRIBLE regarding lightfastness.

The other brands provide less colors not because they cannot, but because they cannot do it with reasonable permanency.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:42 AM
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Re: If I have Coloursofts is it worth it to get a Prisma set, too?

After many years, I've shifted to making art simply because I enjoy it, so lightfastness isn't too much of a concern for me anymore. I'm just trying to find a range of supplies that I love using so much that all fears of making "mistakes" are overshadowed by the excitement/joy I find in the process.
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After many years, I've shifted to making art simply because I enjoy it, so lightfastness isn't too much of a concern for me anymore. I'm just trying to find a range of supplies that I love using so much that all fears of making "mistakes" are overshadowed by the excitement/joy I find in the process.


On my experience the best medium to avoid fear of mistakes is charcoal on newsprint paper. Cheap as hell and you can always erase with any fabric.
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After many years, I've shifted to making art simply because I enjoy it, so lightfastness isn't too much of a concern for me anymore. I'm just trying to find a range of supplies that I love using so much that all fears of making "mistakes" are overshadowed by the excitement/joy I find in the process.

This is a great attitude. It's all about enjoying it, after all.
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