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    Leolo
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        hi, I would like to ask you guys if I need to seal (with GAC100) my MDF panels before mounting a canvas paper painting on them

        I know that in order to prevent SID, humidity etc when you paint on top of panels you need to seal before applying gesso but when you are just mounting canvas papers in MDF panels do they need to be sealed before or can I put the gel medium/glue and the paper straight away?

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        #1237555
        Guide
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            I use GAC100 before I mount paper. SID is still an issue when using mdf and the sealer should help prevent that issue.

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            #1237559
            Leolo
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                I use GAC100 before I mount paper. SID is still an issue when using mdf and the sealer should help prevent that issue.

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                #1237562
                Mike L
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                    I have no idea what SID is or stands for, but as an experienced wood worker I can say that MDF is extremely porous and will suck moisture out of acrylic paint like a sponge if it isn’t primed/sealed first. A good quality acrylic based wood primer is what I use.

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                    #1237558
                    Old_hobbyest
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                        I use shellac.

                        #1237556
                        Davkin
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                            SID = Support Induced Discoloration. Personally I’ve never witnessed such a thing. I almost never sealed my MDF panels when I was making my own, never saw any ill effects from it and some of my paintings on those supports are over 5 years old.

                            David

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                            My free-of-charge sciencey opinion. Worth every penny paid for it.

                            From reading, applications of paint take longer to dry and are more likely to get SID. This could be heavy applications or in places where it gets really humid.

                            I wouldn’t use GAC because it’s basically acrylic and is therefore somewhat susceptible to the problem. The acrylic film remains permeable because it doesn’t really polymerize like an oil film. The acrylic binder is already polymerized and suspended (not dissolved) in the water. As the water evaporates, the teensy little acrylic particles do link together, but there are teensy gaps big enough to pass water molecules.

                            That’s why acrylic is water resistant, as opposed to water proof.

                            Shellac is a solution of bug exoskeletons dissolved in alcohol. As the solvent evaporates a more impermeable film forms. Oil based primer sealers (OK for latex so assumed by me to be OK for gesso) form an even more impermiable layer as the oil polymerizes with exposure to oxygen.

                            A painting is never really done as long as I can get my hands on it.

                            #1237557
                            Davkin
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                                I do live in a dry environment, maybe that’s why I’ve never witnessed SID. A couple years ago I stopped making my own supports, I don’t have the equipment to do a professional quality job of it and I don’t care to spend all that time and mess making them. The homemade panels were an inexpensive support to learn on though.

                                David

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                                There is the time and mess factor for sure.

                                A painting is never really done as long as I can get my hands on it.

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