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Old 12-23-2009, 04:57 AM
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Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

I'm pretty new with the medium and here is something i experimented on Canson MT. I'm still trying out the paper and still can't decide whether to blend or not. Critiques are welcome.

And here's the next piece that followed. Here, I tried to paint loosely imitating the layering style of Master Daniel Greene.

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They're both wonderfull! I really like the style of the second one!
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:41 AM
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Wonderful painting. I think you got it down. Whatever you are doing itís gorgeous. james
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Welcome to the Pastel forum Straycat (Robert)! Wow, you do really nice work! If these are the results of your just getting started in pastels I know you will continue to do impressive work. I'm guessing that you haven't done a lot of blending in these; I like seeing the different strokes of pastel and hope you'll find that blending isn't necessary. Colors get dull when they're blended together and optical blending is one of the big advantages of using pastels. A little smoothing with a finger here and there is sometimes needed but most of us prefer to let the pastels do the blending, sometimes using harder pastels to blend or soften edges where needed. I hope you'll experiment with different brands of pastels and try all the papers that are available too.
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Re: Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

Beautiful work!
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Re: Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

The second one really impresses me. Nice work!

Try sandpaper, too--Wallis, Colourfix (broken strokes), Pastelmat, La Carte(blending).

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Very nice...especially for just starting in pastels. I, too, like the strokes of pastels and find the texture in the portrait very pleasing.

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Beautiful paintings
love the 2nd, I personally like paintings where you can see the strokes so it appeals to me more. The glowing colors are gorgeous on his face.
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LOove the second one here too!!
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Re: Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

hello. I like both pieces - each has its own character.
I've seen demos at D Greene's studio several times, each time realizing more about why I respect his work and his dedication. You have chosen a living Master to hold in mind.
Myself, I work on paper, and have found ways to blend and yet not blend.
Paper has its particular character/form.
If you would, please speak about the brand(s) of pastel that you have/use.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:22 PM
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Re: Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

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They're both wonderfull! I really like the style of the second one!
Thank you, Dar. Me too.


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Wonderful painting. I think you got it down. Whatever you are doing itís gorgeous. james
Thank you, James. I appreciate it.

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Welcome to the Pastel forum Straycat (Robert)! Wow, you do really nice work! If these are the results of your just getting started in pastels I know you will continue to do impressive work. I'm guessing that you haven't done a lot of blending in these; I like seeing the different strokes of pastel and hope you'll find that blending isn't necessary. Colors get dull when they're blended together and optical blending is one of the big advantages of using pastels. A little smoothing with a finger here and there is sometimes needed but most of us prefer to let the pastels do the blending, sometimes using harder pastels to blend or soften edges where needed. I hope you'll experiment with different brands of pastels and try all the papers that are available too.
Thank you, Donna.
I am, unfortunately, a big time blender and I haven't tried optical blending. I'm not good with colors actually and relied too much with the color picker in Photoshop. I have to remind myself all the time not to blend and try to simplify. Squinting doesn't help me much. Do you think blurring the reference photo will help?


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Beautiful work!
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The second one really impresses me. Nice work!
Try sandpaper, too--Wallis, Colourfix (broken strokes), Pastelmat, La Carte(blending).
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Thank you, Deborah.
I've had a discussion with Colorfix (Charlie) about this. Is using the sanded paper the same as spray fixing the overworked layers?

Btw, I've seen your PanPastel demo and I've bought a set of 10 to try out. Wonderful video.


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Very nice...especially for just starting in pastels. I, too, like the strokes of pastels and find the texture in the portrait very pleasing.
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I like loose strokes too. Unfortunately, the paintings that followed are mostly blended. Old habits die hard.


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Beautiful paintings
love the 2nd, I personally like paintings where you can see the strokes so it appeals to me more. The glowing colors are gorgeous on his face.
Thank you, Betsy.
I like loose strokes too but I happened to be a big-time blender, that's why this 2nd piece means a lot to me.


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LOove the second one here too!!
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hello. I like both pieces - each has its own character.
I've seen demos at D Greene's studio several times, each time realizing more about why I respect his work and his dedication. You have chosen a living Master to hold in mind.
Myself, I work on paper, and have found ways to blend and yet not blend.
Paper has its particular character/form.
If you would, please speak about the brand(s) of pastel that you have/use.
Thank you. E
Thank You, E.
I have a copy of D Greene's pastel demo on JIM and I've watched it over and over again. Since then, I've been trying to use his style of layering but always in vain since I have a heavy hand and I'm a long time blender.
I only have the Derwent pastel pencils, Carb Othello pastel pencils, Nupastel, Rembrandt and W&N sets when I started these. Now, I have the softer ones but I find it more difficult for my style.
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Re: Japanese Girl/Guy at the Park

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I have to remind myself all the time not to blend and try to simplify. Squinting doesn't help me much. Do you think blurring the reference photo will help?


You could try that but honestly, whatever you're doing sure seems to be working well for you. I don't do portraits (I wish) so I don't know how important edges would be to you and whether blurring them would affect the way that you see the forms of the face. Do you step away from your easel after you put down a few strokes? I'm always amazed at how strokes blend together from a few feet away and sections that I labor over and try to smooth out look flat and lifeless when viewed from a distance. There's no right or wrong way with blending - just find what works best for you. The sanded papers you asked about have much more tooth than a spray-fixed piece of Canson. You can layer away and no spraying is necessary.
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You could try that but honestly, whatever you're doing sure seems to be working well for you. I don't do portraits (I wish) so I don't know how important edges would be to you and whether blurring them would affect the way that you see the forms of the face. Do you step away from your easel after you put down a few strokes? I'm always amazed at how strokes blend together from a few feet away and sections that I labor over and try to smooth out look flat and lifeless when viewed from a distance. There's no right or wrong way with blending - just find what works best for you. The sanded papers you asked about have much more tooth than a spray-fixed piece of Canson. You can layer away and no spraying is necessary.
Thank you again, Donna.
How come you don't do portraits?
I don't step away from the easel to look at the painting from a distance mainly due to the size of our apartment.
I have a few sanded paper here that i can try.
Thank you again.
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How come you don't do portraits?

Because people expect them to look human. I did a goat once, does that count? Seriously, I admire those of you who can get such amazing likenesses and also express the personality or mood of the person depicted. Portraiture seems like such an exacting science - much easier to move a tree in a field than a nose on a face!
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I have to say I love these two pieces. They are just delightful in color choices - especially behind the head in that ruby color of the second piece and the lavenders in his hair.
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