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Old 09-16-2005, 12:11 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

ah, i opened it in explorer, it worked fine...that`s the offending picture?
well, never even saw that there.....

i think i may have used an apple one that that person posted but i did paint some changes to it so don`t think that will be a problem

as someone said, bit of a mess really.....

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Old 09-16-2005, 03:33 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

I was able to get onto the site-I searched for any photos I have used that may be there and there were several (by several different photographers) that had been posted in the Reference Library under the person in question. I don't want to imply anyone's innocense or guilt, I just want to cover myself and see if I can use the rightful owner's photos as references or do I need to distroy all of the canvases.

This is quite disheartening and I have just started painting in May. I can only imagine the impact of those who in good faith have sold some works and now thier reputation is on the line as well.

I am concerned about these threads that can be searched by google and others can see that we have used thier references to paint from, even though in good faith, any of us who have used them have our reputations on the line-not to mention the possible expense of proving we didn't know that the photos may not have belonged to the person in question. I would really like to see all of the threads with any of my paintings from any of those references deleted as I am planning to destroy all that I don't get permission to use. Just to keep any other photographers seeing thier work displayed without previous permission- prior to our knowledge.

I am to the point right now that I am afraid to post anything with any reference material used.

I have tried to be so careful to get prior permission and then to send my paintings (or links to threads) to the person who allowed me to use thier references. I have always taken copyright to heart and seriously. I just get sick to my stomach thinking about it.

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Old 09-16-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

Oh darn, no wonder he seemed like 'Superman' with his exploits! - I really enjoyed the photos & have several that I must delete from my computer I wondered why, when I pm'd the person to show them my artwork, they never returned a message. I have used his images in at least a couple of works but have given them away.
Thank you for alerting us.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:27 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

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The site won't allow a link to the image, so just go to www.trekearth.com, then search for ullswater. The image in question is near the bottom of the list.

Thanks, Mav. that worked well.
Thankyou also to Lynn, but that URL didn't work for me either
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:11 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

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I am concerned about these threads that can be searched by google and others can see that we have used thier references to paint from, even though in good faith, any of us who have used them have our reputations on the line-not to mention the possible expense of proving we didn't know that the photos may not have belonged to the person in question. I would really like to see all of the threads with any of my paintings from any of those references deleted as I am planning to destroy all that I don't get permission to use. Just to keep any other photographers seeing thier work displayed without previous permission- prior to our knowledge.

You can ask the moderator of your forum to delete the images that you have used, however, only those images from the file that Kerri has posted will be removed. The rest will stay.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

Could someone who has seen the questionable image describe it so those of us who can't access it through the link, regardless of browser used, can have some idea of which one it is? I did go to Trekearth, searched Ullswater, but near the bottom doesn't ID the pic and I recognized none of those posted there.

By the way several commented that they wondered about the professional quality of the member's photos. All that professional means for artists or photographers is that a certain portion of your income is made through sales of your work. It has nothing to do with quality. Many "amateurs" produce work that exceeds that of the professionals. Nor is Trekearth a site of professionals anymore than is WC although professionals certainly participate.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:20 PM
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Could someone who has seen the questionable image describe it so those of us who can't access it through the link, regardless of browser used, can have some idea of which one it is? I did go to Trekearth, searched Ullswater, but near the bottom doesn't ID the pic and I recognized none of those posted there.

By the way several commented that they wondered about the professional quality of the member's photos. All that professional means for artists or photographers is that a certain portion of your income is made through sales of your work. It has nothing to do with quality. Many "amateurs" produce work that exceeds that of the professionals. Nor is Trekearth a site of professionals anymore than is WC although professionals certainly participate.
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'Professionalism' has nothing to do with it. Anyone can copyright their work and these works on trekearth were copyrighted. And that is where the 'rub' is.

What you need to do, if you think you've painted from a work on the site that Kerri has set aside, is to look through them. If you see something you've used, it would be best to go through the trekearth site (there are categories of subject matter) to see if it is copyrighted there. Yes, it takes time but I've done it in an evening.

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Old 09-16-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

Being a curious(nosy) person, I went to the TrekEarth site, opened up favorites under Turkey and easily found more matching photos to the ones in question. I still don't know the match for the one in question, but I found more problems, just by looking on this one site. This is so sad...
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:44 PM
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:53 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

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Originally Posted by krystakaye
I was able to get onto the site-I searched for any photos I have used that may be there and there were several (by several different photographers) that had been posted in the Reference Library under the person in question. I don't want to imply anyone's innocense or guilt, I just want to cover myself and see if I can use the rightful owner's photos as references or do I need to distroy all of the canvases.

This is quite disheartening and I have just started painting in May. I can only imagine the impact of those who in good faith have sold some works and now thier reputation is on the line as well.

I am concerned about these threads that can be searched by google and others can see that we have used thier references to paint from, even though in good faith, any of us who have used them have our reputations on the line-not to mention the possible expense of proving we didn't know that the photos may not have belonged to the person in question. I would really like to see all of the threads with any of my paintings from any of those references deleted as I am planning to destroy all that I don't get permission to use. Just to keep any other photographers seeing thier work displayed without previous permission- prior to our knowledge.

I am to the point right now that I am afraid to post anything with any reference material used.

I have tried to be so careful to get prior permission and then to send my paintings (or links to threads) to the person who allowed me to use thier references. I have always taken copyright to heart and seriously. I just get sick to my stomach thinking about it.

DISHEARTENED,
Krysta Kaye

Krysta, I think most photographers would be flattered that you would choose to paint from one of their photos. Asking permission after the fact may not be ideal, but it's a good idea.

One thing that you won't lose from this is what you've learned about painting. And talk about a fast learner! Just keep painting!
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:09 AM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

This is dishearting. So many wonderful images are lost.
Even though this member has had his images removed from the RIL, I still have a collection in "My Favorites". I guess it's up to me to remove them, huh.(and I will)

One copyright image can upset so many. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, as I have not painted anything from this member. I just saved a few images in hopes to do them one day. Now I see that will not be the case. I believe the images I have are by this member, but for safty measure, I will remove them from my Favorites.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:06 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

Just my opinion, but I've worked with professional quality reference images (Masterfile) legitimately in my publishing work. I'd say anything previous to 2004 looks like personal snapshots, then there is suddenly a great jump in quality in the 2004 shots. The person may have taken a photography course and acquired a better camera, but I don't think he/she could have traveled that widely in one year. And I got trapped too. I'm in the middle of a drawing using one of the 2004 shots. Grrrr.
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

What I want to know is what would be the motivation for a person to post someone else's copyrighted images? Is it to just get stroked by all of saying what great images they are? It doesn't make any sense.

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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

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What I want to know is what would be the motivation for a person to post someone else's copyrighted images? Is it to just get stroked by all of saying what great images they are? It doesn't make any sense.

Lynn

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Old 09-17-2005, 06:58 PM
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Re: Reference Image Library Violation

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This issue is now a legal matter. Please do not accuse or hint at accusing the poster of any of these images of anything unlawful on WetCanvas! (whether in the forums or PM). No one has all the facts on this matter, including us, on whether anything unlawful occurred; there may well be a perfectly innocent explanation, but this argument is now a legal issue and will not be had on WC!. Any statement to the contrary may well be libelous, and in any event would run afoul of the user agreement.

I think everyone is having a little trouble understanding motivation, but in terms of legality, etc., for the WC site, I think we should possibly refrain from conjecture regarding anyone's mental state.
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