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Old 05-13-2019, 05:37 PM
kmmcdonald kmmcdonald is offline
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Question Koh-i-Noor USA vs. Koh-i-Noor Hardtmuth CZ

I have come to appreciate those few Koh-i-Noor Hardmuth products that are available through Koh-i-Noor USA as excellent values, but not necessarily best in class. However, there are a few Hardtmuth products available in the USA that nicely fill a need for me (e.g. Progresso woodless colored pencils and graphite). However, Koh-i-Noor Hardtmuth CZ makes about 10 times the size of a product line than that which is available in the US.

I received a set of 48 Hardtmuth Progresso (woodless) Aquarell watercolor pencils that are very nice as a gift. My wife paid through the nose to have them shipped from England. As an amateur watercolorist, I see in Hardtmuth's catalog that they also produce an extensive selection of pan watercolors (both sets and open stock). Neither these watercolor pencils or pan watercolors are favailable in the US.

Yet, Koh-i-Noor USA only distributes a fraction of the Hardtmuth catalog in the USA, along with other inferior products that are labelled "Koh-i-Noor" but are not sourced from Hardtmuth CZ (e.g. rapidographs which I abandoned long ago for Rotring isographs due to the former's quality issues, and "fair" quality bristol paper which is not the equal of Strathmore 300 series except in whiteness).

I have queried Koh-i-Noor USA about availability of the rest of the catalog, but I never get a clear answer. What's going on here? What is the peculiar business relationship between the two Koh-i-Noors that restricts USA access to most of Hardtmuth's catalog?
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:42 AM
tiago.dagostini tiago.dagostini is offline
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Re: Koh-i-Noor USA vs. Koh-i-Noor Hardtmuth CZ

It is simply a matter of market. They are there for proffit and if their demand is expected to be low on a line they will not sink resources on it.

Here in Brazil we can find 90% of KIN line.. but on other hand there is NOTHING at all from prismacolor, nothign from generals, nothing from Nitran, Nothing from ANY paper manufacturers except Canson and Hahnemülle (absolutely no chance to find a Strathmore paper here) and the canson line here is much much smaller than the one available in europe. I can find liquitex heavy body paints.. easily but ZERO chance to find their soft body paints...

That is normal....
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