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    This is something I posted on my facebook page today, it’s an old and much rehashed subject… but not recently here.

    I received this facebook message the other day and wasn’t able to reply back (because the person was no longer contactable)
    ‘Not to sure why a Christian is painting nudes of people. It is not biblical or Godly so l will be deleting you from my fb page because your art is immoral.’

    I responded by saying that I am absolutely against immorality, which I consider to be the mistreatment and abuse of others especially for reasons of self interest, and am particularly concerned about some world leaders at the moment!… I think it is a little sad that some seem to get their values and judgements confused.

    any thoughts and comments on this subject are welcome.

    Mac

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    123harry
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        I would have short shrift with this sort of attitude. It is simply naive and outdated. Even images which depict abuse or violence against the body must be assessed in context.
        There has been a resurgence in this reactionary and itrational outlook recently in all areas of life.

        C&C always welcome.
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        #719471

        A heady mix of religion and art- and judgement and simply not understanding life drawing!
        We all want to find our tribe (or is that just me?) and I am lucky enough to have found a few that share my passions.
        I have come across many that don’t understand why I want to paint the nude. I am sure they look at me as weird. Their problem, not mine.

        bethany
        moderator in figures & portraits blogs: artbybethany life-presence
        website www.bethanyart.com
        My inspiration is art... because without art, we would just be stuck with reality. ~Daniel R. Lynch

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        ArtistOz
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            So long as no adultery or fornication is going on its not immoral and as for lusting over coloured pigment or graphite/charcoal its only the viewer doing the lusting who is in trouble.

            Bill,
            https://www.flickr.com/photos/artistoz/
            Instagram, billwperry

            #719473
            chrismc
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                Maybe you just need to add a fig leaf to be considered a-ok.

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                Back in the seventies there was a movement called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_Festival_of_Light
                where Christians were urged to seek out any form of sexual titilation in the media and condemn it. Quite a few of the zealots took to task eagerly and reached for top shelf magazines just to check out their perverting nature.

                It is said that much of early religious art was just an excuse to display lascivious nudity. The many versions of Susanna and the Elders would, I suspect, have got many a good Christian man in a sweat.

                The human body is designed, or rather, has evolved, to be sexually attractive. If it wasn’t, we would have died out aeons ago. However, when drawing or painting the nude, the true figure artist is interested much more in how the light falls and how he or she can do justice to the form.

                I ceased to be a Christian years ago for many reasons, but I try to live my life to a reasonable moral code. I cant abide the ‘holier than thou’ code that many religions force upon us. Nature in all forms is beautiful, and we should be grateful we are here to enjoy it.

                Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art - Leonardo da Vinci
                More than happy to receive C&C on anything I post
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                #719478

                I grew up “Pentecostal – First Assembly Of God”. Shame was a big factor. Thank God, I grew away from that Cult. We are all born naked – how can that be immoral. Mandatory Clothing is a result of skewed thinking. I rarely ever paint complete nudes, but that is just my own preference. (Most of us look better with a bit of cover)

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                earlselwyn
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                    Mac,

                    I think this group may be a little biased! For me, the answer is: it depends. The meaning of “nude art” is open to much interpretation. For that matter… what does “immoral” mean? Is pornography a form of nude art? I’ve seen “fine art” that clearly denigrates women and is offensive by design. Is that immoral? My wife helps me with these questions… but my point is – we won’t all agree.

                    For what it’s worth, in my opinion there is nothing immoral about your work. As David touched on – it’s celebrating life. You’ve been given this gift (some would say by God) to paint and draw. What better way to use it? I think your FB friend did you a favor. Now you don’t have to worry about causing a fellow Christian brother or sister to fall from grace. You can sleep well tonight.

                    -Earl

                    instagram.com/earlselwyn/

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                    ArtistOz
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                        As long as there is a butt icon mandated it will be viewed with suspicion.

                        Bill,
                        https://www.flickr.com/photos/artistoz/
                        Instagram, billwperry

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                        Pthalo White
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                            As long as there is a butt icon mandated it will be viewed with suspicion.

                            :lol: :clap:

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                            orrrock
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                                Morality can depend so much on your point of view. Recently there was an article on the BBC website about feminist leader of a student union in a university complaining about a painting on the wall. They wanted it painted over as it depicted a load of white European men being honored with degrees. This created quite a backlash when it was pointed out that the men depicted were those who had lost their lives in the first world war and thus never picked up the degree. We seem to be becoming more polarized as a society.

                                Food for thought, Picasso’s painting “guernica” is depicting immorality does that make it wrong?

                                Sorry for the ramble.

                                peter

                                "Ladies and gentlemen I have suffered for my Art...now it's your turn."
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                                #719479

                                The Most Immoral thing I can think of isn’t nudity, it is killing one another.

                                #719483

                                How “godly” righteous of this person to pass judgement on your art.
                                Many people with unresolved fear, anger and a limited capacity to love seem to cling to ideals of a “higher” existence, but often are without the ability to see their own, or others, beautiful nakedness.

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                                dawnra
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                                    Mac,

                                    I have often considered the idea of morality when it comes to painting the nude figure. If the painting is not exploitative and depicts the beautiful wonder that is the human being then in my opinion how can it be considered immoral.

                                    I know there are people who consider the naked form to be immoral under all circumstances but I agree with Skylar, killing one and other, unfettered greed and hunger for power take immorality to a whole new level.

                                    Your wonderful talent rises above what your FB contact considers to be immoral.

                                    Mike

                                    [FONT=Garamond]As I paint I talk to my canvas, in the hope that one day it will reply! http://www.laoisartist.blogspot.ie

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                                    hmshood5
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                                        Back in the seventies there was a movement called [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_Festival_of_Light[/url]
                                        where Christians were urged to seek out any form of sexual titilation in the media and condemn it. Quite a few of the zealots took to task eagerly and reached for top shelf magazines just to check out their perverting nature.

                                        It is said that much of early religious art was just an excuse to display lascivious nudity. The many versions of Susanna and the Elders would, I suspect, have got many a good Christian man in a sweat.

                                        The human body is designed, or rather, has evolved, to be sexually attractive. If it wasn’t, we would have died out aeons ago. However, when drawing or painting the nude, the true figure artist is interested much more in how the light falls and how he or she can do justice to the form.

                                        I ceased to be a Christian years ago for many reasons, but I try to live my life to a reasonable moral code. I cant abide the ‘holier than thou’ code that many religions force upon us. Nature in all forms is beautiful, and we should be grateful we are here to enjoy it.

                                        Hey, you Whitehouse
                                        Ha ha, Charade you are…

                                        Yes, it seems that any type of nudity or expression of sexuality will be condemned by those who fear that people will not be in lockstep with their views on the world. I always wondered: do they refuse to see a doctor because they will have to be naked in front of someone?

                                        "All of us get lost in the darkness... Dreamers learn to steer by the stars"
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