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Old 07-09-2018, 09:11 PM
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Lukas Extra-Fine Gouache - Any tips?

Local art store is moving so has a store-wide 50% off sale. I've been looking to add to my gouaches and found pretty much only Lukas Extra-Fine left! I now have the set of 12 (20 ml) and then another 9 or so colors that were also on clearance.

Does anyone else use Lukas EF Gouache? Are they at all rewettable if I poured them into pans? Or more crumbly? did you have any pitfalls with anything? I've heard the white is a bit yellow-y tinted, but anything else to be aware of? The sale was way too good to pass up, although I know people tend to prefer Holbein or M. Graham...

(The shop owner was amazing. He comp'd a few things for me just because.) I've got to make basically this same thread over in Oils, because I also got Lukas water-miscable oils on steep sale too ahaha.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:26 PM
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Re: Lukas Extra-Fine Gouache - Any tips?

I have only put Da Vinci Titanium White Gouache in pans (to use for watercolor highlights). It helps prevent crumbling and assists rewetting to mix a little glycerin into the paint before putting it into a pan: about one drop per half pan, two drops per full pan. You may or may not need to do this with Lukas EF, which I have never used.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:07 AM
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I have only put Da Vinci Titanium White Gouache in pans (to use for watercolor highlights). It helps prevent crumbling and assists rewetting to mix a little glycerin into the paint before putting it into a pan: about one drop per half pan, two drops per full pan. You may or may not need to do this with Lukas EF, which I have never used.

My only concern is I've heard glycerin makes the gouache dry a little more shiny. BUT I have enough gouache paint to try it out in the pans regardless! maybe I'll start with a little bit sans glycerin and then add some in later with fresh paint if it crumbles in the pan.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:39 AM
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Re: Lukas Extra-Fine Gouache - Any tips?

I was given several tubes of lukas designer gouache, and a few tubes of EF.
I have never used gouache at all until a few days ago, and still have not used the EF. Several designer tubes were solid hard. I cut the bottom off the tube to the level of the rock of paint, and (because I had read a bit on the gouache thread) dug some out of 4 tubes to do a painting. TOTAL experiment: hard dry small chunks of paint, to be used on cheap mixed media paper that already had some paint on it.
I added drops of water to the chunks (and a bit of time) and they did reconstitute. That was a few days ago. I just now added a couple of drops of water to the dried gouache on my plastic palette, and it does appear to have become fluid paint again. I am talking of the designer. I don't know the grade of the Designer vs the EF.
The fresh gouache did cover some of what was there with two coats but I think I"ll have to add a third coat in some areas.

But apparently, the advice is to put out only what you think you will use, because "the fresh paint is richer looking than the reconstituted."
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But apparently, the advice is to put out only what you think you will use, because "the fresh paint is richer looking than the reconstituted."
I don't know of any gouache artist who uses dried gouache in pans. I only do that with white gouache for watercolor highlights and such. (I hate masking fluid.)
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:35 AM
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...I added drops of water to the chunks (and a bit of time) and they did reconstitute. That was a few days ago. I just now added a couple of drops of water to the dried gouache on my plastic palette, and it does appear to have become fluid paint again.
But apparently, the advice is to put out only what you think you will use, because "the fresh paint is richer looking than the reconstituted."
I want to clarify: I dug out small bits of hard paint, added a few drops of water, waited a little--5-10 minutes, then painted. When finished, I closed my palette which still had wet paint on it. To respond to your question, (which I really did not do) I tonight, several days later, added 1-2 drops of water to the dried dug out paint which had dried again. It appears to have reconstituted a second time.
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:38 AM
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Re: Lukas Extra-Fine Gouache - Any tips?

I'm using this old dried paint to learn with, to practice with. It's good.
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Old 07-12-2018, 03:25 PM
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I don't know of any gouache artist who uses dried gouache in pans. I only do that with white gouache for watercolor highlights and such. (I hate masking fluid.)

I know Roz Stendhal uses pan poured gouache, and James Gurney has posted a review of pan dried as well. Hence why I asked! Roz tends to be more critical of things than I am but she also uses her papers more precisely than I do as a beginner, and she has more experience with more kinds of gouache. Her brands seem to be mostly Schmincke or M Graham for gouache, but neither of those were sold in the store in the first place, nevermind on super sale.
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