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Old 08-31-2010, 05:30 PM
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Stained glass painting supplies

Hi all,

I am looking for some supplies other than Pebeo Vitrail and Pebeo Vitrea for painting on glass... I heard a lot of praise on Lefranc & Bourgeois glass painting media (also called "Vitrail"), but they seem to be non-existant in the US. Do you know any other brands/suppliers?

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Old 08-31-2010, 06:59 PM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

It depends on whether you want to fire your glass in a kiln, or cook it in the oven.
Color Magic is a line of lacquer based paints that you can harden in your kitchen oven - they are durable, but not permanent. Unlike the Pebeo colors which are water soluble, these need a thinner. Some of the hobby shops will have paints that are specifically made for glass - but again, not permanent.
If you have a kiln available, you can use traditional stainers colors from Reusche, enamels from Fusemaster or Thompson or Unique. There's a bit of research necessary as you'll need to match your enamels to the glass you're using. And there are a lot of techniques you can practice. If you can find it, there's an out of print book by Albinus Elskus called "The Art of Painting on Glass". There are also several websites that give a lot of information. My favorite is an english site is Williams and Byrne - you can sign up for their newsletter and get tons of free instruction.
Or, you can search of glass painting techniques.
Hope this helps!
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:34 PM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

Pebeo vitrail are not water-soluble either and they don't require baking. As for color magic - I'd like to hear more from someone who used them! Are they good? Do they mix well? I find pebeo colors to form some "dirty" colors when I mix them, so the safest is to stick to their original palette.
I don't have a kiln,unfortunately...
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:21 AM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

I have used the Pebeo paints on glass with my airbrush....I love the results. I've also used the lacuer paints...but was not as satisfied with the vescosity of the paint and thinner.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

Karen, thanks! I am overall satisfied with Pebeo Vitrail, but I keep looking for something even better L&B stuff, as I heard, is even better in comparison to Pebeo, especially if one needs mixing colors.
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Old 01-29-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

Sciuro,

I also love using the PEBEO VITRAIL line ... I get mine from DickBlicks.com (the best service and most reasonable shipping sprices especially if you meet their specials).

But, I have a QUESTION: The "Vitrail Lightener" is rather expensive. Does anyone know of a DIY "at-home" formula OR a less expensive third-party product that would work as an option to "lighten" the PEBEO VITRAIL line?

Thanks.
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Old 01-29-2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

Crowkar,

How the heck do you use VITRAIL with your airbrush? Do you use really cheap airburshes and throw them away? The VITRAIL line is extremely hard to clean and not very viscous ... I would love to know.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:35 AM
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

The paint must be thinned down very much! The paint should be the consistancey of soymilk. And I use a Badger Anthom 155....just make sure you clean it immediately when finished or it will be a disposable airbrush.

It's fun! I have taught any of my students how to do it...they love it.
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Re: Stained glass painting supplies

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I find pebeo colors to form some "dirty" colors when I mix them, so the safest is to stick to their original palette.

Can you tell me more about this? I'm about to start a big glass window painting project in India (inspired by Josef Albers's color theory studies) and am trying to decide which paints to get- the bigger bottles (more economical, but more complicated mixing) or the smaller bottles- their "original palette", as you say.

I realize this is an old thread, but ANY information you have would be so useful! There's lots of reviews online and how to's about these paints, but I can't seem to find personal experience on what it's actually like to work with them- which is what I'm looking for!

Thanks so much for your help!
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