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Old 09-01-2019, 02:23 PM
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Best Impossible to Find Watercolor Books

What out of print watercolor book do you wish you could get your hands on?
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Old 09-02-2019, 05:23 AM
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I recommend "The Lakes" by W Heaton Cooper.

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Hilary Page : Guide to Watercolor Paints -- it's out of print but still available used on amazon.


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The Winning Ways of Watercolor: Basic Techniques and Methods of Transparent Watercolor in Twenty Lessons Amazon
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Mastering Atmosphere & Mood in Watercolor: The Critical Ingredients That Turn Paintings into Art by Joseph Zbukvic seems to be on a lot of people's wish list. It starts on Amazon at $153.88. Link

I bought the book when it first came out and it's a wonderful book to have for its content, but not at its current price!! I've always wondered why the publisher or Mr Z himself did not reprint it.

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Zbukvic's book is near the top of my list too (an intelligent interaction with a search engine will find you almost everything you need to know about it, if you want). I long lusted after, regularly checked out of my library, and now have finally purchased my own copy of -The Winning Ways of Watercolor- by Ron Brandt (suggested above) for which I spent more than I usually would for a used book, somewhere around $50, IIRC. I'm glad I got it.
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... I've always wondered why the publisher or Mr Z himself did not reprint it.

Some years ago I contacted Mr. Z about this and he replied that there had been a "disagreement" between himself and the publisher and a reprint was never going to happen.
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disagreement" between himself and the publisher

I'm sorry to hear this. From my personal experience in the world of book publishing, I would have to guess that it's not Zbukvic's fault. Although I have literally NO insider information on that particular book or the relationship between that publisher and author, I nevertheless see so many signs of the usual trajectory that I find myself sympathizing with the author. Instead, I suspect that the problem is with Watson Guptill Crown publishing group and their approach to all books of this sort. I'm guessing that they can't "be bothered" and also don't actually know how easy it now is to re-issue efficiently and profitably, and because the older models (from, like, the 1960s) of book-publishing economics tend to preclude inflating the market with editions of older works, they're highly likely to still be assuming that newer is more sellable, and that recently minted is the only way to make a book. Or, even more likely, they'd be willing to pony up the minimal effort to make it happen, but only if the author would relinquish all rights to it and basically abandon any future potential profit from his own work.

Since it's a goose that might lay a golden egg, the farmer decides he'd better strangle it rather than let anyone else have any of "his" gold. To me it's really bizarre that, now in the high-quality print-on-demand era, so many book publishers can't get their act(s) together to re-issue things which are in very high demand. Wouldn't they want the profit? Anyway, I don't know anything specific about it, so, I shouldn't really badmouth either party and won't speculate further. I'll just point out, that it's quite often the case, that books originally destined for the how-to art market, and for the coffee-table look-at art market, after running out an original print-run, then see a later resurgence in demand again and would re-sell quite well, books which authors and editors would be happy to update or amend, but which seldom nevertheless see the light of new editions. Many retrospectives of individual artists are also like this, even though (now) the technology to update, amend, and re-issue is so simple that the necessary office work can effectively be accomplished over one day, maybe two, with just a few smart recent college grads sitting in a small office armed with little more than typical home-user laptop computers. But nooooo ... can't do things the NEW way, noooo ... we never did it THAT way before .... noooo ... harrumph. I'll stop now.
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Mastering Atmosphere & Mood in Watercolor: The Critical Ingredients That Turn Paintings into Art by Joseph Zbukvic seems to be on a lot of people's wish list. It starts on Amazon at $153.88. Link

I bought the book when it first came out and it's a wonderful book to have for its content, but not at its current price!! I've always wondered why the publisher or Mr Z himself did not reprint it.

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That book is available at the Internet Archive site. (https://archive.org). I'll not put the exact link here, as I'm not sure that would be appropriate. I wouldn't even mention it if either the author or publisher were still offering it.

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That book is available at the Internet Archive site. (https://archive.org). I'll not put the exact link here, as I'm not sure that would be appropriate. I wouldn't even mention it if either the author or publisher were still offering it.

Do you mean the entire book got scanned?
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The link doesn't work for me. ?
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That book is available at the Internet Archive site. (https://archive.org). I'll not put the exact link here, as I'm not sure that would be appropriate. I wouldn't even mention it if either the author or publisher were still offering it.

Do you mean the entire book got scanned?

Almost everything ends up scanned on the net these days. Thatís a fact, not something that can be hidden or denied. I think it was the russians who were used to passing around photocopied forbidden samizdat who decide that the world really needs a big book repository, and the idea caught on. Some people I know seem to dedicate their lives to the idea that all books ever written should be online. I was very surprised to find out that many of these are upstanding senior citizens rather than young counterculture types.

I usually look at electronic versions of old art books, and if I like them I go on ebay and buy them, takes a minute and $10 usually, but often itís the electronic version which gets all the love because my large iPad is stuffed full of those art books and I travel with it. A good example are the Charles Reid books which I first read in bootleg versions and then bought as hardcovers.

I have full physical access to the big french copyright library, but it is actually much smaller than the net site founded by the russians because the french mostly donít purchase foreign works. I am not sure thatís really so smart.

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Re: Best Impossible to Find Watercolor Books

Clifton ,,I think you made a typo,,It's Rex Brandt, not Ron, I think
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Emma's link works if you take off the last parentheses
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I usually look at electronic versions of old art books, and if I like them I go on ebay and buy them,

This. Almost every book I've bought in the last five years has been freely available on the 'net, but after reading it on my computer I've decided to buy it.

I used to choose to buy stuff I'd borrowed from the local library, but now it's almost bereft of books, having replaced the stacks with computers.
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