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Old 09-04-2018, 04:42 PM
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How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

I'm facing the prospect of framing several dozen oil paintings for an upcoming show. Most of the paintings are on Masonite/hardboard, but some are on stretched canvas. A couple are on unstretched canvas. I have a whole bunch of wood frames and hanging hardware ready to go. (I don't plan to use backing boards. Not sure about paper backing yet.) But I'm not sure how to secure all the paintings to the frames. Some questions:

1. Are glazier points the best thing for securing hardboard to wood frames?

2. Should I instead consider a point driver, like this? https://www.amazon.com/Logan-F500-2-.../dp/B003BMFOJQ

3. How does one secure stretched canvas to a wood frame? In many cases, the stretched canvas is deeper than the rabbet depth of my frame. The frames didn't come with any tools to secure canvas to frame.

4. I'm not sure what to do about my one or two paintings on unstretched canvas. I don't think I have enough spare canvas for stretcher bars. A fellow artist suggested simply gluing them to a piece of hardboard and then mounting that in a frame. What sort of glue would I use?

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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Hi Geoff: I used to use push points, but now love my Logan point driver (hobby lobby with coupon).
For S.Canvas sticking out of frame, I've carefully used nails at an angle with my nail gun. I suppose you could use finish brads or nails and a hammer.
One way I got around this for a show was to use wide gorilla tape placed neatly on the back to secure. That stuff is like iron.
This is a good video on mounting your canvas paintings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3jb3xUvrQs
I use the same method and if you like the process you could carefully remove your canvases from stretcher bars and mount those as well.
Good luck, Derek

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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Thanks, Derek! That's all very helpful. Yeah, I like the look of that Logan point driver.

Edit: I also found the video helpful. He mentioned using PVA glue to mount canvas. I'm not quite sure what type to get. A google search took me to this stuff: https://www.jerrysartarama.com/frami...al-ph-adhesive . Or this: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Hand-Ne...E6PYHWZPDMHSX5 . Is that the right idea? It all sounds vaguely like my Elmer's glue.
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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Geoff......yes, I've used Elmer's which is the same I believe.
I forgot to mention, I use a Printmaking brayer to roll on the canvas.
I have a large sheet of coffee table glass that I put on top and then barbell plates.
Leave over night.
You can use this method to make a nice watercolor board as well.
I've also mounted Arches oil paper this way and paint in oils, what a treat.

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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Flexible points drivers are good for thin artworks, canvasboard, watercolors under glass. For regular stretched canvas I use the grommets and screws in various sizes (1/4", 1/8", etc.)
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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Derek: Thanks for the further reply. I'll pick up a printmaker's brayer. I had planned to use a credit card to spread the glue, but a brayer is cheap and a better solution. I've already ordered your Logan driver from Amazon. Can't wait to try it.

ArtMarkie: Thanks for your comments. I like the idea of grommets etc. But I do have some stretched 3/4-inch canvas that is wider than the 1/2-inch rabbet I have in most of my frames. I'm still not sure how I'll secure those. Jerry's Artarama suggest using 1/4-inch offset clips, so I'll try that. But it may just make more sense to buy some frames with deeper rabbets, especially as I don't have all that many 3/4-inch canvases to worry about.
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Re: How to secure painting to frame: Glazier points? L-brackets?

Also, a somewhat off-topic question: do people ever use paper mattes with oil paintings? My sense is generally no. Why is that? Is there concern that paper overlapping the canvas might not let the oil breathe, or some such?
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