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Old 08-01-2018, 05:15 PM
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Hello..my apologies for not visiting this forum more often. It would be really nice if there were more activity here, but obviously that only happens if people visit more often!! I'll try to do better.

I'm fairly new to digital art..I'm tackling a scene that I'm beginning to feel is beyond my skill level. I feel like I'm at a loss this afternoon where to go further with this..I know I need to tighten detail on the scales and the background..I guess I'm just not really sure about HOW to do that. I would appreciate some direction and critiquing from a more experienced eye.

Another question..I hate working with that murky gray background, but almost every tutorial suggests it. Does anyone here work a different way?
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:29 PM
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

To me, the background seems unfinished. The figure seems to float above the surface.

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Old 08-01-2018, 06:03 PM
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

Hi Deborah,

please do not despair. I can understand your problems well, but they can not be solved at once. We say here in Europe "Rome was not built in a day" :-)

It's the same with painting. Everything needs time and practise. I am prof. Juggler/Sircusartist and we talk about "hours and hours of frustration" but we do not capitulate :-)

At first, it does not matter if you're digital or traditional. The crucial things are a certain know-how how to approach a picture.

You are already on the right path. You work from rough to fine. At the beginning is a good and strong drawing, then details are far from important, you block the basic colors.
Soon there will be an important work, which comes far before the details, light and shadow. This is determined roughly by light and dark tones, and
how the figures become more plastic and three-dimensional.
It does not matter so much whether you make the background at the beginning or the end.
Digital you can work mostly as in Photoshop with "layers".

Do not be overly distracted by technical issues like program details.
The goal is to "paint"!

If you want to see how I act, I have on my website too
in the digital works, the "WIPs" with set. It's not about being a poaster, it's about showing you how a way can be, it's my way, it's close to
"normal" way off and you can see something the individual steps.

Look here (hope, that is allowed to post the link).

A good teacher online is Aaron Blaise. He was Artdirector at Disney and he knows very well to draw and paint digital and traditional. On his youtub Chanel you can find tons of tutorials!
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:35 PM
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

I'll work on the shadows. Thank you Doug..I know Ive yet to complete I just am a little lost and figuratively threw the brush down. 😬 Thank you Ancho for the in depth guidance and examples. Values and shadows, yes.
The background is not in my minds eye yet so that is not helping..
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Old 08-01-2018, 07:02 PM
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There is a great digital artist in Singapore, named Dong Jun Lu.

This pic from his gumroad workshop is very similar in the composing point of view to your concept. Maybe you can extract some Knowledge comparing
Light and Shadow and going forward to paint in that tonal values in your pic.
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

I’m sorry I can’t help you much. I am pretty new to digital art also. I have photoshop and some of the other programs but I found that working in Procreate on an iPad Pro is super simple. I also use Affinity photo and Affinity designer. They are a one time purchase.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:17 PM
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

That's wonderful similar artwork Ancho..I will study that.
I use photoshop CC and a cintique Flo..lots and lots to learn but I love it. Thank you for your input!
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

@Deorah

glad to help you. at any level of skill as painters we are on the same long way.
Help is nice but we have to walk any step of this way with own feet, making own experience and trying to reach own skills. on this way we feel sometimes
lost and alone. But look. Everybody is on the same way :-)

I can tell you some experience about using photoshop and tablets. If I work
on a tutorial with procreate, to me it seems very similar, in the main direcction the same.

Real difference you´ll find in the fine motorics and eye/hand coordination with
the tablets. I have bought once a cintique companion with own windows and
immediately I got very very lucky with that. If you have possibility in a
shop-exhibition try it out. There is so huge difference when it comes to
drawing or painting. In drawing with digital pencil you will find very fast
the big advantage of a special painting-tablet!
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

Looking great so far! With digital there are many ways of doing things, you have to find the techniques that suit you best.

Having a grey background helps with judging values and colours.

Is this your usual sort of subject? You might like the fantasy/scifi forum. It's quiet there too, we could use more members.
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:02 PM
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Thanks so much Michelle..no, this is not my usual subject but I had lots of fun going there. I've downloaded some fantasy art magazines but they're loaded with dark fantasy..so that must be the thing. I did enjoy this though, so you might see more of me in the fantasy forum. 😀
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:08 PM
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Re: desperately seeking critique.

I thought I'd post the finished result. Of course, I can see where there could be massive improvement but honestly Im dead sick of it. I'll try to remember what Ive learned for the next one and do better.
Thanks again for the guidance @Anchopancho @LavenderFrost @floblue @Yorky Much appreciated!




Now that I look at it here, maybe I don't have enough of a foreground showing in this closer crop. ??
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Looks great and I think the crop is fine. I understand wanting to be done with something. Funny thing, I usually work with acrylic or digital, and my digital paintings tend to take a lot longer.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:06 PM
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Oh glad that's not just me Michelle..May be it's because there are so many options and you can go back and forth and muck about with different ideas using layers. Whereas, traditional medium for the most part once you lay it down you're somewhat committed. I paint in watercolor as well, so especially that medium..so locked in. I love the freedom of digital methods and the unending possibilities...its so wild. I'm just beginning but am really enjoying. I fussed with this one some more and extended a wee bit in the front so there's a tad more foreground.
btw, my mother grew up in Killarney, Ma..Pleasant Valley. :-) Beautiful province.
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Yeah, I think that's the problem, you can keep undoing things but with real media you just have to move on.

I've heard of Killarney but never been there.
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