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Old 03-08-2018, 09:04 AM
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Manganese Blue Substitute????

I am trying to find a substitute for Manganese Blue. I know they no longer make it and the substitutes are a Manganese Blue Hue. I have looked at handprint and Jane's site but neither say which they prefer.

I need a Manganese Blue that is transparent or as close as I can get to transparent ).

Could you tell me which brand of Manganese Blue you prefer that is transparent? I am painting Botanical Watercolors.

Thanks in advance for your recommendations!
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:09 AM
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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????



i just bought 1 a few days ago out of curiousity..

could u tell more about this hue and how u use it?

Bruce McEvoy recomend peacock blue by holbein..but the lightfastness is 2nd rating...
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:26 PM
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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

DaVinci has a Manganese Blue hue/mix that is part Manganese and part Pthalo Blue. I love it. Very transparent.
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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

Most of the manganese blue hues Iíve seen are pthalo blue (gs) mixed with titanium white. Those would probably not give you the transparency youíre looking for. I think Qorís manganese blue hue is a mix of pthalo blue and green, so that might be your best bet transparency-wise. Diluted pthalo blue could maybe get you that hue as well.

For what itís worth, it seems to me that most painters either go with cerulean or pthalo blue as their greenish blue. I donít see manganese blue or manganese blue hue mentioned often as a necessary palette color.

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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

Daniel Smith Manganese Blue Hue is a granulating PB15 with no white.

It can be used as a nice sky blue by the sea. Now when I live far from the coast I use ultramarine.
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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

I have Winsor Newton Manganese Blue Hue, PB 15, Series 2A, Lightfastness II.

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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

The Manganese Blue I had was a very weak colour. I prefer Winsor Blue fot transparency and strength. I have both red and green shades.

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Re: Manganese Blue Substitute????

Thanks so much for your help everyone! I decided to go with Laperico's suggestion because it had some of the actual Manganese pigment in it and was transparent. )
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:30 PM
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Thanks so much for your help everyone! I decided to go with Laperico's suggestion because it had some of the actual Manganese pigment in it and was transparent. )

You won't be disappointed. DaVinci paints aren't as flowy as my Daniel Smith's but they are excellent, excellent, excellent. The granulation is also very pretty but subtle.
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The Manganese Blue I had was a very weak colour. I prefer Winsor Blue fot transparency and strength. I have both red and green shades.

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The original Manganese Blue wasn't that good mixing colour. This is not a disadvantage when you want to use a unique hue of a violet or a pink but blues are all about mixing. It is very rare the occasions that you are going to use a blue hue without mixing it with something else. And the original Manganese Blue didn't have that unique special hue, unable to mix with other colours or find anywhere else hue.. it was like a diluted light phthalo blue.
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