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Old 02-08-2018, 06:18 AM
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Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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GENERAL INFORMATION:
Title: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon
Year Created: 2017
Medium: Acrylic
Surface: Board
Dimension: 16" x 20"
Allow digital alterations?: No, please :)

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Hi, I am new here. Here's my first post.
This is the first ever painting that I have made. Finished it last year. Took me until age 32 to paint.
I have had no training.
I have always loved art and used to draw a lot as a child and teen. I used to also love borrowing books on artists from my local library (before the inte<br>et, only way I could check out paintings). I stopped being an artist because that's what society wants, for you to get a degree and work in corporate.
The artistic flame was reignited in me last year after seeing the Van Gogh and the Seasons exhibition in my home city.

Based on a photographers photo (big thanks to Lauren at L.M. Fowler Photography for allowing me to use her photo as a reference to paint. Her amazing photography can be seen on Instagram @lozm4). I have attached her photo from her Instagram page.
Much brighter than the photo but I don't mind.

MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
How could I improve?
I know the colour is not the same as the photo, I was after a kind of exaggerated look.
Any suggestions?

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:37 AM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

Welcome! Very nice start. I love hearing about your story.
I don't have a lot of time right now, but here are three things to consider. The very back row of trees, notice how in yours the edge is hard? In the photo it is soft and sort of blurs into the sky, that helps with making it look further away. Also, the brighter colors are fine, but on the left side, the shadows within the leaves are nearly black in the photo-don't use black, maybe a very dark blue carefully placed would help to add depth. Darker orange just isnt enough there. Finally, notice in the photo how the tree trunks have dappled light on them, after it has gone through the leaves. Adding some of that to the trunks will help the sense of light.
Good to have you here!
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:17 PM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

Exaggerating color is often done.. but you can enhance a work by using correct values and hard & soft edges ..
Training your eyes to really see variations of edges & values helps a lot..

Study the photo & compare the slight changes , like the road edges, far orange trees are a bit softer/lighter .. that sort of thing.

It looks like black was used for tree trunk & posts..? not so in the ref... but you can use the very dark /black as under painting and add some softer colors on top..
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:32 PM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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Welcome! Very nice start. I love hearing about your story.
I don't have a lot of time right now, but here are three things to consider. The very back row of trees, notice how in yours the edge is hard? In the photo it is soft and sort of blurs into the sky, that helps with making it look further away. Also, the brighter colors are fine, but on the left side, the shadows within the leaves are nearly black in the photo-don't use black, maybe a very dark blue carefully placed would help to add depth. Darker orange just isnt enough there. Finally, notice in the photo how the tree trunks have dappled light on them, after it has gone through the leaves. Adding some of that to the trunks will help the sense of light.
Good to have you here!

Hi Sevan,
Thank you for your critique!
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:33 PM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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Exaggerating color is often done.. but you can enhance a work by using correct values and hard & soft edges ..
Training your eyes to really see variations of edges & values helps a lot..

Study the photo & compare the slight changes , like the road edges, far orange trees are a bit softer/lighter .. that sort of thing.

It looks like black was used for tree trunk & posts..? not so in the ref... but you can use the very dark /black as under painting and add some softer colors on top..

Hi JMW,
Thank you for your critique!
I am confused with values vs. colour.
I've seen YouTubes talking about values. What's the difference between value and colour?
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

value is the level of intensity/weight/strength of color - more white in any color, decreases its value.

like a paint chip strip when you're looking for wall color

i've attached a greyscale comparison of your painting and reference ... it's easier to see values that way

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:37 PM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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value is the level of intensity/weight/strength of color - more white in any color, decreases its value.

like a paint chip strip when you're looking for wall color

i've attached a greyscale comparison of your painting and reference ... it's easier to see values that way

la

Thank you!
Wow, didn't know you can use greyscale to check.
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

Treat yourself to either:

https://www.amazon.com/Painting-Secr...+from+a+master

or , if your have more money to spend:

https://www.amazon.com/Alla-Prima-II...richard+schmid
You're off to a good start. Get the basics down by listening, as millions of us have, to what the masters say.
After that the only limit is what you can dream
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:56 AM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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Treat yourself to either:

https://www.amazon.com/Painting-Secr...+from+a+master

or , if your have more money to spend:

https://www.amazon.com/Alla-Prima-II...richard+schmid
You're off to a good start. Get the basics down by listening, as millions of us have, to what the masters say.
After that the only limit is what you can dream

Thank you for the suggestions!
Definitely would be keen.
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

In my siggy is a link to mostly landscape related info, but it can be used for most paintings.. There is so much info and past lessons to learn from, explore the threads.
A related link - "Landscape Composition Rules " (Tips)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles/Jo...120/index.html
a single scrollable page of same -
https://www.currys.com/template.htm?...FO=TT-LANDCOMP
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:35 PM
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Re: Autumn Landscape, Mount Macedon

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In my siggy is a link to mostly landscape related info, but it can be used for most paintings.. There is so much info and past lessons to learn from, explore the threads.
A related link - "Landscape Composition Rules " (Tips)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles/Jo...120/index.html
a single scrollable page of same -
https://www.currys.com/template.htm?...FO=TT-LANDCOMP

Thank you!
I'll check the links out.
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