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Old 12-22-2017, 07:34 PM
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Hahnemuhle Grey Book

I can't believe I have only just discovered this forum! It was only a chance encounter via either the Watercolour or Watermedia forums.

I have kept art journals for quite some time, but early this year received some free samples from Hahnemuhle which included one of their A5 Grey Books. The paper is 120 gsm and is really intended for dry media, but I have used it sparingly with watercolour and gouache without any major problems.

The following sketches have been done plein air with two local sketching groups - sometimes a little tidying up has been done later at home.


The white was added at home - I now make sure I have either a white gell pen or gouache with me to add the necessary highlights.




Knowing I would be sketching buildings built of Cotswold stone, I prepared the above page with a pale wash of cream coloured acrylic.

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Re: Hahnemuhle Grey Book

Lucky you, Sonia, getting the free books! Love each of your creations here. Keep them coming!
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Sonia these are very nice sketches. Looking forward to seeing more.
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:50 PM
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Re: Hahnemuhle Grey Book

A few more sketches from the Grey Book:


Doric Temple, Petworth Park. The grass was quite damp, so this was a very quick sketch done standing up - the off-white for the stonework was done with a Posca pen.


Pen, watercolour and gouache


An experiment - I had already used foam stamps and white gesso to provide a patterned background for whatever I chose to sketch this day. Definitely a bit over-powering, but worth a try!


The background to this page was pre-prepared by sponging on a very thin layer of leftover blue/green acrylic paint. The sketch was completed with pen, watercolour, gouache and white gel pen.


Pen, watercolour and white gouache.
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Lovely sketches! The book sounds interesting, gotta check it out now.
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Hi nice

what weight is the paper?

I made the mistake of buying a beige Strathmore (comes in grey as well) and am deeply disappointed in it as it buckles and is just too thin

I'm being given a grey S&B, which I'm really looking forward to getting, knowing the quality of their books I like working on tinted paper sometimes.

You mentioned getting a white gel pen - I find these too wimpy, though some people like them. For sketches I find a Pentel correction pen is really useful. it dries fast and you can put a wash of watercolour over it if the white is too harsh. I wouldn't use it for a painting I'd frame in case it yellows or flakes off over time - though I've got really old sketches in sketchbooks where it's still absolutely fine.
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Kudos to you, all are very nice.
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These are really enjoyable. Great architechtual drawings and I like that combo of water color and gouache on tinted paper. Gary
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Re: Hahnemuhle Grey Book

Hi Vivienne - paper weight 120 gsm, which is not as sturdy as I would like. As I said earlier, it is really designed for dry media and it does wrinkle a bit with watercolour, but I have got used to it.

I have had trouble getting white pens - they seem to dry out after a couple of uses, but this one is a Pentel Hybrid Gel and I have used it frequently for writing on black paper as well as the occasional fine highlight on my sketches.

Thanks also for your comments Trikist, Monastic Bat and otherworlder.
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Sonia, love all your works posted especially the gesso patterned background. Keep 'em coming our way! Merry Christmas!
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Thanks for the pen info yes 120g is too light for me so not on the shopping list

I also really like drawing in ink with twigs - and white acrylic ink covers brilliantly

just not suitable for fountain pens obviously
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Sonia, these are lovely! You've got something gorgeous going with the grey book. It's awesome!

For dry touches, white Conte, a General's White Charcoal pencil, or a white Derwent Inktense colored pencil (works wet or dry) are cool alternatives to keeping gouache handy on site. Of course I do like gel pens and gouache, just saying that these things have worked for me in the past when I couldn't locate the gouache.
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Re: Hahnemuhle Grey Book

Thanks Kay, also Robert and for your suggestions about adding white - will add a couple to my sketching supplies.

I had better get a few more images in before the end of the year!


Pen, watercolour and some gouache


Pen and watercolour over page previously collaged with printed tissue


Pen and watercolour - page previously washed over with acrylic and gesso stamp.


Train guard - pen and watercolour (he looks more like he's about to play tennis!)
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Re: Hahnemuhle Grey Book

These are so great. Love the interesting effects you get on pre-prepared pages too, that's so striking. Very jazzy, they don't have to connect with what you draw but do enhance it.

Is that a former Sakura Koi pocket box repurposed to hold artist grade half pans and full pans? It looks familiar, like you pulled out the insert and added a couple of barriers to make the pans area separate from brush or pen storage. It's pretty cool!

One thing I forgot to mention - pastel pencils, a white Conte pastel pencil will be pretty similar to the white Conte stick but a little easier to hold, if longer and needs sharpening. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. General's White Charcoal is the brightest white pastel pencil that I have ever used though. Same thing - having different types of white accents allows different effects.

A white oil pastel is very different and won't smear, but those never dry either. Sennelier ones will harden overnight though, they are super soft like lipstick and a day later it forms a stiffer paint film.

For watercolor, consider getting a titanium white Daniel Smith Watercolor Stick, just swipe with a wet brush treating it like a pan. I don't often draw with them because watercolor sticks behave oddly when drawing - not much saturation or they crumble, they don't give a good clean line on dry paper. But on damp paper or when used as portable pan substitutes, they rock. I recently bought a white one for that reason. It could also be sliced into several pieces to have one in different kits. They also have titanium buff for a light opaque color that's not white.
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Thanks Robert - it's so handy to exchange ideas about materials etc. This is a Winsor and Newton Cotman (student quality) paint box which I was given - I had some artist grade Sennelier half pans which I substituted for some of the original colours. I use this box just for sketching. It also contains a white Caran D'Ache Neocolour II pastel, plus a blob of dried white gouache on the mixing palette. There is a tiny travel brush in the set, but this is rarely used, preferring a Pentel water brush or a larger travel brush for adding colour to my pen sketches.
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