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Old 12-11-2017, 01:59 PM
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I take the critiques very seriously and as often as not I incorporate the suggestions into the piece. Thatís the reason I do these progressions - so I can consider the input Iím getting before I get too far along. The plan here is to do a night-time winter scene.
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Old 12-11-2017, 02:32 PM
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Re: NYC

perhaps an unnaturally strong lean to the lower two trees, depending on how that pans out i might be tempted to topple one of them onto the ice/snow/water/whatever.

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Old 12-12-2017, 12:00 PM
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Day two - blocking in to check perspective and colors, not concerned with values yet
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Old 12-12-2017, 06:53 PM
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Did a bit more this afternoon. Has to dry a few days now before I can get back to it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 10:27 AM
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Day 3: too wet to really work on, added some fussy details where I could easily reach. Detail:
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:16 AM
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Re: NYC

This is coming along very nicely. I particularly like the reflections in the water.
I'm wondering about the perspective on the bridge. Since we are able to see the underside of the bridge on the right, we must be standing to the left - not looking at the bridge straight on. So it seems that the left and right sides of the top of the bridge should not be at the same height as they go off the page. I think the left side needs to look like it's farther away. Maybe you plan to do that with value and temperature at a later stage?
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Old 12-17-2017, 12:06 PM
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Just thought Iíd post a quick update. Havenít made much progress with all the holiday activities, plus itís still pretty soggy. I adjusted some of the values slightly, long way to go. I donít expect Iíll get back to this until after Christmas.
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So far so good. Nice painting. It seems to me though, that the reflection of the bridge, especially on the right side is a bit strong. I'll be waiting to see more.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:26 PM
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I think even from the low angle of view you would see more of the reflection of the underside of the bridge.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:41 PM
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Grabbing a few minutes here and there when I can, to work on this. Next is lighting up quite a few of the windows and adding a large, tall tree in foreground on left side (straightened up considerably, per La's suggestion). Did I mention I now dislike painting windows?
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Architecture can be complex. I like what you have going on in the foreground, however there is some major perspective issues going on right now which I suggest you fix. Recheck your vanishing points and straighten out the verticals too. The buildings are leaning unnaturally, and this is usually caused by "converging verticals" or the bending of light by the camera lens on the ref photo that I presume your working from.
Other than that, seem like its solid. Happy painting
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:14 AM
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I agree, work to be done on the perspective of the windows, but the verticals are an illusion. I had the same thoughts as you but have checked and rechecked the vertices with a T-square, they are dead on. Whatís causing the illusion are the windows, mostly in the lower half of the darker building in the center. A lot of this will get covered with tree branches and the rest Iíll correct. I donít have the patience, and I do not find it rewarding painting like this. My last painting with a bazillion windows. I wonder why we tend to ignore vertical vanishing points? They exist but to paint them looks unnatural. In reality, having parallel vertical lines is wrong, they should converge, but if we do it, it looks awful.
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Old 12-24-2017, 01:51 PM
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Progressing slowly, trees should dry overnight, then I can add the snow to the branches. Still needs a few values adjusted.
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Old 12-24-2017, 03:04 PM
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Progressing slowly, trees should dry overnight, then I can add the snow to the branches. Still needs a few values adjusted.
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superduper subtle suggestion to let the shore sneak gently under and through the bottom left side of the bridge like this

congrats on getting through the tedium of all.those.windows, holy smokes

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