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Old 12-03-2017, 03:05 PM
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Do artists buy other artists work?

Not sure if this is an "Elephant in the room" situation, but I've tried many methods to try and sell my work, and I have read countless ecommerce articles about targeting followers of your “Niche", but my niche is the art world!

And when I target my niche, I only ever attract other artists. With all due respect, I can’t imagine them buying my work.

Facebook’s ad targeting should work, because you can select interests, occupations, demographic, etc, but Facebook in another (increasingly expensive) story which is longer an option for me.

So, I’m trying to build my Instagram and Twitter accounts, and I chose my hashtags carefully, but these are the same hashtags that artists use, including myself, to look at other artists’ work.

I do occasionally use #artcollector or #artgallery and such like, but does an art collector really open Instagram, and type "art collector"? Maybe they might click that hashtag if they see it?

If I were selling pet food, I would target pet lovers. If I were selling yoga mats, I would target the exercise fanatics. But I'm trying to sell my art, so who do I target? Art lovers, of course, but if I use keywords, like “abstractart" or other art-related keywords, I'm only finding other artists who are surely not going to buy from me?

I myself follow many artists, but I would not consider purchasing their paintings because it kind of defeats the point of trying to make a living from my art.

So, how do you separate the collector from the artists who has no intension of purchasing, and find the person looking to spend? Or am I wrong, and artists are my targetted audience?

(Of course, the other Elephant in the room could be that my work simply isn't desirable. But we won’t talk about that).
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:14 PM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

Lots of prior threads on this good topic!

In my experience, marketing fine art is a long, winding and usually lonely road. But we all must travel that road if we are serious about sales.

Lots of threads on the why and how of it.

Fine art originals, at appropriate fine art prices do not tend to be purchased by unknown collectors over the Internet...at least that's my experience. Giclee prints, at print prices, however, are sold daily or monthly...at least that's my experience.

Selling original fine art to serious art collectors, who will pay serious fine art prices, more often than not requires in-person viewing of the art. It frequently requires some knowledge or relationship with the artist. And, most of all, the artwork must have some sort of personal and emotional connection to the life and/or family and/or history of the collector.

Unless or until your artist name and work are instantly recognizable in a regional or national marketplace. Then all bets are off as the money rolls in...or so it seems to me.

And all bets are off if you do digital and fantasy art...those are in a completely different market place.

And commissions are another market place as well...

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Old 12-03-2017, 08:36 PM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

I totally agree with Virgil Carter. Facebook, twitter, Instagram are the last places that I would think to sell my art. I do believe you should have a website/blog or combo, but that is often to direct people to. They do not look for you, and they do not "find" you, unless it is by chance, or if they saw a piece of your art, (galleries, magazine articles, lectures, illustrations, or another way that an eyeball can actually meet a piece of art).

Join your regional/state/city art guilds "clubs" or other societies that have shows. Become well known as "that guy who paints squares" or whatever you do. Join with 4-5 other artists and start a co-op gallery. Hold "open studios."

People may argue, but I think that the above facebook/twitter and so on, may be good to get the word out about something, but not as a predominant sales tool.

And, really, artists actually do buy your work as well. Artists are the top of the "art lover's" food chain. I've sold many paintings to artists. They tend to be cheap and ask for discounts, but they do buy.
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:13 AM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

From what I have seen the majority of local artists I know don't buy art from other artists and I am one of them. However I know a few very successful artists who buy the works done by other local artists quite frequently when they see something they like.

I would love to own a painting or two done by every artist I know personally, but I prefer to trade my art for their art rather than using cash. Some artists are interested in trading, others not.

As for selling my own art, the most consistent venue over the last 4 years has been in local galleries.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:56 AM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

I buy art from other artists and they buy art from me. I can't afford to buy what I'd really like, so I buy prints. My main collector of paintings is an artist himself. Another artist bought a study of mine. People who buy my prints tend to be repeat customers and maybe a third of them are artists.

I also promote other artists' work on my FB feed by sharing a link and talking about their work, just because I like it. Sometimes they do the same for me. One guy who just posts art and has a huge feed has shared my work a few times, and that helps.

Basically all of my sales have come through FB. I have a good sized feed on there (the FB page I have in my sig is not the one where I have a big feed--that's a "personal" page). Most of my FB friends are not artists. Still working on Instagram. Most of my followers on there are not artists either.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:10 AM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

I have an extensive art collection acquired over 50 yrs mostly by barter, swap and trade. Sometimes swapping ptgs. Sometimes tutoring other artists or artist kids. Sometimes trading supplies for art or vice versa.

Past weekend examples: Swapped on-location plein-air ptgs with a painting partner and traded a painting to neighbor for an easel.

Best example: One summer decades ago I taught some workshops for local high school students. I accepted an inner city student painting in lieu of his fee. His stuff now sells in four figures.
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:33 AM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

Thanks for your useful comments.

With regards Facebook, Harold, I know what you mean. I follow several high-profile artists, and I have noticed that they are using their personal page, and not a fan page. I've often wondered how they get away with this. I think they are not actually promoting their work, but merely talking about it.

I think they must conciously not mention money, price, sales, etc. otherwise (and I've heard this can happen) Facebook will take your personal page down if they think you are selling from it.

But it's the perfect solution. I get email notifications whenever they update their status, and I always go and take a look. It's how fan pages should work.

My trouble is I don't always want my cousins, aunties and uncles seeing and commenting whenever I post. I suppose there are some privacy settings I could look at, but I haven't got around to it yet.
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Old 12-04-2017, 03:52 PM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

When I started my personal page, I was using it to promote my online (non-art) shop, and someone else messaged me and said that his personal page where he had been promoting his shop had been reported and he had to make a new page. So I created a biz page for my non-art shop and after that I never used my personal page to promote my shop, but I did use it to talk about what I was making for my shop or to comment in general about doings in the occult world (my shop supplies things I make for use in magic).

I set up the art page a few years ago, thinking that I could build a following on there. And I did get people who were following my personal page to "like" it, but most people who know me as an artist "liked" my personal page on account of how FB allows us to comment. Thing is that FB does everything it can to prevent anyone from promoting a business page without paying for it.

Like you can't post as your business page even on someone else's business page. You used to be able to. But if you can't, and you have to post as your personal page, then no one will ever even know about your biz page. I have gotten tons of followers on my personal page who know about my art because I belong to a couple of business groups where I have to post from my personal page instead of my art or shop pages.

And if you post on your biz page, you can have several hundred followers but due to FB's practice of squelching any biz page that does not pay for ads, you won't reach them. Typically a post on my biz page hits max 35 people even though I think there are over 200 followers or whatever. Most of my art page followers never see my posts.

I refuse to pay FB for ads. After all, it is because of my content that visitors to FB are clicking on FB ads for dentures and whatnot. Why should I pay them? They should be paying me. Yeah, I know, dream on.

So what I do is post wips on my art biz page (in the daft hope that people will see it) and when I finish a painting, I post about it on my personal page and my biz page, both having a link to my art site page with the painting on it. People can see the image without leaving FB (and most do not actually leave it) but those who buy do it by clicking through from my personal page. So there you have it.

I think there is even a doohickey now where you can put a button on your FB page to sell, but I would bet that you can only do that with a biz page, in which case, it is worthless to me. I think Shopify has it, where I have my art site. But they just don't have any sense if they think people are buying off FB biz pages that never get seen. And from what I have heard, if you do pay for ads, they get seen by a bunch of people in Pakistan.

Since I don't use my personal page primarily to promote my businesses but usually to just shoot my mouth off about something, post cat gifs, or post about other artists, then I don't feel I am violating their TOS. And it isn't spammy. It's a fine line to walk.

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Old 12-05-2017, 09:34 AM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

"I myself follow many artists, but I would not consider purchasing their paintings because it kind of defeats the point of trying to make a living from my art."
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How so? Do professional chefs not buy food made by others because it "defeats the point of trying to make a living from" their cooking?

Do professional musicians not buy music from other musicians because it "defeats the point of trying to make a living" from their music?

If anything, the energy of surrounding yourself with art is inspiring and positive. I buy art often from other artists.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:41 AM
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I sell entirely online. My bread and butter is pet portraits, and I sell other art that I make during slow times. I'm transitioning to that other art this year.

I know artists who sell extremely well on the internet. Each venue has a code to crack to get followers who will buy. Nothing wrong with other artists following you. My blog, though, had almost all people googling things like "how to paint a black dog" or something. I rarely sold from it so it's on the bottom of my list of marketing tasks.

If you aren't spending almost as much time marketing as you are painting, it's a hard row to hoe.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:46 AM
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By the way, your About page needs to be either completed or hidden. Currently it shows WordPress's sample and instructions as though I were you working on it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 07:39 PM
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

Artists DO buy art! Some of my buyers have been artists, and I have a small collection of pieces I've bought from other artists. For me, buying art is about making our home fun to live in. Since my own art takes up a lot of the wall space I do tend to buy small pieces or functional items. It's nice to look at someone else's work sometimes, usually things that are really different from my work.

It's true you should find and target the market that best fits what you do, but not to the exclusion of everyone else, it's more about focus or "best bang for the buck" when you decide how to spend your marketing time.

Your work looks well done and very modern and abstract, so you might want to network w/the interior design trade. There is often overlap there between that industry and galleries. Make sure anything you show them is really "polished," meaning it looks well done and professional front, back, and sides, including hanging hardware, etc.

While I don't use social media to directly make sales, I use it to promote shows or new work, and share links to blog posts about shows or my process, and that frequently leads to sales. Facebook works well for me because the majority of the local art world uses it, so it's good for networking. The people you want to reach could be on a different platform. By using a few social media sites, you'll figure out which ones are worth spending more time on.
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I buy at least 2 original paintings from other artists each year. Several artists buy my work too. I sell many paintings through FB.

Finding your niche collectors is important. My niche is rural, agricultural land and trees. My collectors are Farm/ranch owners, naturalists, outdoors, garden fans, birders, not the kind of people who hang around galleries or art openings.
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

I have a collection of prints by Roger Dean, but if I could afford to buy his originals, I would!

I do have a lovely abstract on my living room wall that I bought from a local exhibit (my town library sells space for art exhibits) - it is stunning, and well framed. I don't usually buy abstract art, but this was a beautiful marbled piece that was an absolute steal, and was still hanging there after I'd been away for a few days, so I bought it. I love it. I think, even had it been three times the price (it was very cheap), I might still have succumbed.
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Re: Do artists buy other artists work?

I also buy work from other artists and I often have other artists buy my work. I find it to be a huge compliment when other artists buy my work. I mainly buy things from artists for whom I have great admiration. I've been tempted a few times to buy some pieces I just find cool but I have no idea who the artist is. At some point, I will start buying work from that perspective too. I've don't understand why artists would NOT buy art?? Should we not support others who are in a similar journey as our's? Are we not appreciators of art? If you love it, buy it!
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