I stopped using painter years ago. It was too much of a ram hog, too many palettes, I just fell in love with art rage and found it so much less stressful, cleaner and more intuitive. Now, I've been approached by a photographer who wants me to collaborate with her, using Painter to get "painterly effects" I believe the work she showed me is using the cloning tool in Painter, she then prints it out, and wants to ads some dabs of water based oils to actually meld painting and photography. Is anyone out there doing this? The dabbing on of paint, I can handle, I just want to learn more about the cloning. I'm watching some tutorials on the corel site, but I'd like to get some advice from painter users on this.