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Old 09-25-2017, 09:47 AM
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Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

I normally make sales thru my galleries but since posting regularly on Facebook I have been getting a lot of inquiries privately. Unfortunately, like many artists i am not v marketing savvy 😊 … Someone who saw my art in a US gallery is asking for a 40x60 inch commission. The last two times I sold pieces direct to unknown clients they paid me in full before shipping. How common is it for artists to insist on full payment upfront before starting on a commission? He was happy with these conditions (full pay upfront) but said he would run it by his wife….. he never got back Lol.
I could do half deposit and rest on completion or delivery. but if there are problems I don’t want a work that size hanging around in my home/studio. Normally when I don’t hear back from a potential buyer I just leave it but I am considering contacting him with an offer for a half now, half later transaction (probably too late now though) I was also considering getting my lawyer involved though he doesn’t specialise in art. Any thoughts on all this welcome.

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Old 09-25-2017, 10:35 AM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

Please do not alter your terms! It will give the impression that you don't value your work and that it can be had for "Sale" prices. Please also be sure that the person is real and that it is not a scam.
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Old 09-25-2017, 01:56 PM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

If he did not get back to you, do not assume the reason was your term of payment. Sometimes it is simply life's distraction that makes a customer forget about you.You can contact him and say your are planning your fall painting season and would like to schedule him in if he is still interested in commissioning your work. You can continue the negotiations once you know his position. On a side note, I do not understand your need for a lawyer. Maybe you could clarify that statement in your thread.
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:13 PM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

Thanks for your responses… Yes, Debbie you are probably right about not altering the terms. I have had scammers in the past. I don’t think this is one of them.
artbymdp… yes it could be some other reason that he didn’t get back. It was quite a high priced commission also. That was partly the reason I thought of having my lawyer involved so that all the terms were made very clear if two payments were going to be made. Lawyers do get involved when a business agreement is being made.

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Old 09-26-2017, 11:49 PM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

If I were selling to someone outside of my country, I would ask for full payment up front. Otherwise, 50 percent deposit and 50 percent upon approval of the work + shipping expenses, which has been my standard for a long time and has so far not let me down. I also use a signed contract, though others here may say they never will (as is usual here).
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

I'd just follow up. This has been a harrowing week for anyone who has family in Puerto Rico or the other islands nearby.

On the other hand, nearly all of those who tell me they have to ask their spouse if they may buy do not pan out for me.

I get my money in advance but I sell mostly in the mid hundreds range.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:44 AM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

Thanks for more responses... Keith, glad to know you have not ever run into difficulties doing a 50/50 payment arrangement.
RobinZ, I guess when a couple are buying a painting together (assuming that is the case) then it will be normal that they both agree on terms. And yes this commission would've been worth a few thousand though I don't see that this should necessarily change or determine how a buyer would pay for it.

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Old 10-01-2017, 12:36 PM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

One thing to consider if you have a good relationship with the gallery where the potential buyer first saw your artwork is that if you go around them and sell directly to the buyer and they find out, they are probably going to remove your work from their gallery and may contact other galleries about what you did. This could be very detrimental to your career.
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Thanks for more responses... Keith, glad to know you have not ever run into difficulties doing a 50/50 payment arrangement.
RobinZ, I guess when a couple are buying a painting together (assuming that is the case) then it will be normal that they both agree on terms. And yes this commission would've been worth a few thousand though I don't see that this should necessarily change or determine how a buyer would pay for it.

WEBSITE http://www.drakebriscoe.com
FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/markdrakebriscoe

Well, opposite of jinxing myself, I had two this week who said they had to ask their spouse, and they both ended up buying!

Good luck on this!
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:46 PM
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Re: Advice needed for selling art direct to buyer

contumacious. it is not clear that they first discovered my work in the gallery, they might have first found me on the internet and then decided to visit the gallery. Not sure... I don't think my gallery will banish me. They have made a lot of money from sales of my work over the years.
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