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Old 12-23-2016, 03:06 PM
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I got the Gurney recommended earth tone package of casein and have begun experimenting. These are 5X7" sketches of raw umber and titanium white that I plan to paint over after they dry a bit. C&C welcome. Gary

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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

I have also mixed the earth toned caseins with more chromatic acrylics & Holbein Acryla paints to try a couple paintings.

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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

They do resemble sepiatone photos. Very nice work! It's tiny on my screen, but i particularly like the way the light picks out the the contours of the figure in the Freising painting.
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Old 12-24-2016, 12:04 AM
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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

Thanks Laika. My wife called them Sepia Photos. The tiny figure was in the original photo that I took in Freising. Casein is pretty good for details so I thought I would give it a try. Gary
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Very nice work. What will you paint over them with?
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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

Thanks Greg. I intend to do a few more monochromatic sketches. Then I am going cover some with caseins and some with oils. These are small experiments and I am still trying to figure out how to proceed. Thanks for looking and your comments. Gary
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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

I finished one and put down the sketch for another. Both are 5X7 casein on Gessobord by Ampersand. I have read that Claybord is better and will try to use it in the near future.

Of the 10 Shiva Casein tubes that I have opened so far, the paints in 3 tubes were already very stiff. I had to use water to reconstitute them. All these tubes were bought in sets, maybe stocked up for sale as gifts. It has been a little trouble but I really like painting with Casein. Covers wells and goes on moderately smooth. Dries to the touch fast but will lift easily for a day or two. I let the first dry for a couple days before painting it over. I have read that it takes 2 weeks to fully cure.

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Yeah, I like that violet underpainting!

Is the casein paints terribly opaque? Are you able to glaze at all on a painting like your Rothenburg one? Sounds like an interesting medium for people who like water-based paints.
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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

Thanks Lamar.

This is all new to me. I thought why not use a colorful underpainting (Violet) that is a rough complement of the colors to follow.

Casein are quite opaque but if you thin them enough you can glaze a bit. They take a couple weeks to fully dry according to Richeson. I covered the Rothenburg one after 2 days. If I had got the paint thin enough (wet enough) to do a glaze, I think that I would have lifted the color underneath. I painted the top layer with the paint fairly thick using only a little water and a light touch.

I included the link to Gurney's blog as I am studying it and his DVD, "Casein in the Wild" to learn about the paint.

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Gary these are fantastic. I did not buy quite the range of colors you have here, I only own titanium white, burnt umber, and ultramarine blue. These provide me an excellent set of base colors for doing underpaintings that lean cool.

I too have kind of fallen in love with Casein, the speed at which it dries to the touch is impressive, and though it does reactivate with water it does NOT reactivate with oils over them. Letting the casein dry to the touch and maybe a bit longer (a couple hours) then painting over in oils is totally fine from what I have found and results in a fast way to do an underpainting that is compatible with oils (both mechanically and chemically bonding).

I really enjoy just painting with them by themselves too. Interestingly, I have found no lifting with them, regardless of how much water I add over a NOT fully cured layer. Instead the result tends to be a blending with that previous layer. I consider "lifting" to be when the film comes off in a scaly kind of layer (like acrylic does when you scrape it off of a palette). This feature means I can treat Casein like I would Gouache or Watercolor, but only for a short while. . . after a couple weeks it's impervious to water and will no longer reactivate.

I with I had found Casein years ago, it's been a joy to work with, I definitely look forward to buying some more tubes here in the near future.
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Re: Casein Sepia Photos Xpost

Thanks Delo. Maybe it is the support that allows me to lift caseins. I am using the less absorbent Ampersand Gessobord as a support at this time. I have ordered the very absorbent Claybord to try in the future. I only need to rest the Gessobord a couple days to cover. Caseins are fun to paint. Gary
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